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21159 No. 21159 edit hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]

"Riiche! Riiche, hold up!" called Gaap, stopping Beatrice's escape attempt to a nice spa.

Sighing, Beatrice turned around. "Yes?"

Gaap, suddenly confronted, looked a little lost for words. "Well, I was just wondering if you had some time to think about my proposal?"

Beatrice frowned thoughtfully. "Which one was that again?"

The demon sighed. "You know. I mean, yeah, it's great that we're putting on the shows that we've been doing, but we should bring in something flashier, something hip, something..."

"Commercial?" the witch completed, dryly.

"Your word, not mine," said Gaap, grinning mischievously.
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"It is so lovely when an opponent thinks they have you beat, but slowly begin to realize they've backed themselves into a corner," chuckled Beatrice softly.

Krauss did not did the ditch.
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What about my second blue? No, wait. That's not it. It's related to your previous red, right?

The Doctor did not personally see to it that the guesthouse was locked, but entrusted that task to the people that were with him, namely, the cousins! One of them, either purposefully, or accidentally, left a door or window unlocked. Thus the guesthouse was never 'locked', and anyone 'could' have left the guesthouse, as your red so wonderfully allows!
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"Hmm, I do suppose that does get around my red, yes..." murmured the witch. Then she shrugged. "When in doubt, add more red."

The cousins dutifully made sure that all entrances and exits for the guesthouse were locked after they entered with the Doctor and the Doctor asked them to.
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But can the same be said of the mansion? One of the servants snuck out, killed Krauss, then returned in time to meet the Doctor and the cousins.

No, that won't do. Your red covers this possibility too. I will supplement with this! The servant in question left the mansion before the guesthouse was locked!

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21198 No. 21198 edit hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
I'm not great with names for games.

This game takes place on Rokkenjima during the 5th of October, the second day of the Family conference. The day before, a letter arrived detailing Beatrice's claim everything the Ushiromiya own.

The letter was sent by Kinzo
Kinzo is alive and Shannon and Kanon are two different people
This makes 18 people on the island at games beginning, before any deaths take place
At the beginning of the story, there are 5 Master Keys. Furthermore in the Servants room one key for each room in the house exists. Except Family Member's bedrooms, who keep their Bedroom Key on their person.
The definition of Master key is; A key which can open every single room on Rokkenjima except Kinzo's study
There are two keys to Kinzo's Study, Genji has one on his person. Kinzo has the other on his person.

Knox's Decalogue doesn't strictly apply to this game. Although despite this.

This game fairly easy to solve

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So it was recent, then? Or maybe not so much.

Wait, are we talking about the portrait in the hall? I assumed the portrait with the poison was the one in his study.

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Ahahaha yes, that's interesting. There's two portraits isn't there? And yet neither the blue or the red specify which portrait.

Kinzo has been in his study for the entire game so far.
Kinzo didn't poison the portrait himself.

Do you understand which portrait now?
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Here we go, witch:

Eva solved the riddle of the epitaph, and as such gained control of the servants, and became Beatrice (which allowed her to control Maria). She ordered the servants to kill themselves, and to hide the gun using the pulley method, so that she could retrieve it later. She also got Genji's assistance prior to that to unlock Natsuhi's room, so that she could place the gas device inside.

After the deaths in the VIP room were discovered, she secreted the gun out from the hiding place Genji had gotten it.

Around that time, Krauss and Natsuhi entered her room. Eva did not know for certain that they would be the first to enter, so that does not count as 'murdering them' specifically. In a way, they died by accident. Natsuhi pushed Krauss out in an effort to save him and locked the door so he couldn't get back in. She then ran to the window and smashed it to ventilate the room. However, she died before making it back to the door. Krauss died while trying to get back in to save his wife.

Eva asked Rosa to meet by the tree. She shot her, placed the stake, and walked backwards to cover her tracks.

She was in the parlor with Maria when Hideyoshi discovered them. They got into an argument, the gun went off (world's quietest gun), and he died. Maria went to get the stake to cover up the death and the parlor room key. They exited and locked the door.

Around here is where Eva applied poison to the painting in the hall, knowing that soon Kinzo would come out, and would be the only one reasonably likely to touch the painting.

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Good! Very good!

But not quite right.

Eva didn't order the deaths of the servants.
Eva didn't place the gas device, nor did she or any of the servants lock or unlock the door.
Krauss's death wasn't an accident. It was murder.
Eva didn't kill Kinzo. She didn't apply the poison to the painting.


If someone intends to kill someone else, but doesn't care who, the intent to kill is all that matters. It doesn't matter that they don't know their target and it still counts as murder.

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"Come on, Beato, you and I both know it's been slow..." said Rudolf, chasing Beatrice (who was wearing her casual clothes) down the hallway backstage of the theater. "We haven't put on a decent show for months. Face it, we need something new to spice things up."

"Rudolf, things are never slow enough for me to need one of your suggestions." Beatrice tried to walk faster.

"That's not fair! I mean, look at what Goat-kun managed to give you once you gave him a chance! Who's to say mine will be any worse?!"

"Lawyers, I'd wager," she said. Still, she came to a halt.

Smiling, Rudolf replied, "Eh, alright, you may have me there, but there's plenty of things changed around so that I'm pretty sure we'll be fine. Even if we're not, well...I know people who are good at dodging things like that. We'll be fine!"

"My confidence in you overflows," replied Beato, oozing sarcasm. "Fine! Fine, you're right, we've been needing something fresh for a while..."

"And I've even gotten us a debut overseas!" said Rudolf, piling on the charm. "New audiences, ripe for the plucking! I mean, starved for entertainment!"
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This is a really short one, because I have a small idea, based on a previous theory; Kinzo shot the gun next to himself to knock himself out. Then, while he was knocked out, someone came in and lodged something into his mouth before leaving the room to do something else. What they did doesn't matter, but the fact that while they left the room, Kinzo was still alive. While the killer was gone, that was when Kinzo died, asphyxiating. The killer later came back, removed what suffocated Kinzo, and then left.

After all, the red of "Kinzo was alone in the parlor when he died" doesn't remove the possibility of Kinzo not being alone before and after dying, just the moment of death.

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"Oh, bravo!" The witch applauded. "That...actually gets around my red quite handily, doesn't it? Bravo indeed..."

She smirked. "However, I fear it is not to be. The killer did not place anything in Kinzo's mouth, and Kinzo did not knock himself out."
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It was a nice battle, but every good things come to an end, and this game of yours isn't an exception to the rule, witch. So... here goes nothing.

During the dinner, Maria stole objects from the family members, including Kinzo. Later on, when everyone will recuperate their objects after Maria’s death, Kinzo’s object is nowhere to be found, which mean either way the culprit recuperated it when he killed Maria or earlier in the evening. For the sake of my argument we will retain the latter.
About the said object, despite the fact that I explained it must have the same template as the object used as a substitute (a golden pen), the study key and a stake from the study having been clearly refuted with the red, I’m left with the uneven but necessary idea that it could have been Kinzo’s plan papers for the night and that’s how the culprit got a grip on this event and the precious informations which will help him to commit the different murders.

Now let’s jump directly on Kinzo’s last stage. We know the parlor is a closed room thanks to plenty of reds concerning this very murder, and we also know that Kinzo died from asphyxiation. The tough part now is that poisons have been refuted in red… But anyway, the cause of Kinzo’s death was this glass of Brandy he ended in a single swallow. The reason is that the culprit put something in Kinzo’s glass when this last turned off the lights for the sake of his mise en scene. Of course, here no question of poison, but of oxycodine. A molecule that can be found in headache medicines, the like Nanjo will propose to Natsuhi during Gohda’s body discovery, and which, meddled with alcohol can cause respiratory depression resulting in asphyxiation.

But who could have put the medicine in Kinzo’s glass during this short amount of time the room was in the darkness? Given the layout of the room and the position of the different characters described in the mystery, the likely suspects would be Nanjo, Genji, who are at his side, and I guess Jessica and Battler who are a door a
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There was silence in the theater as the witch examined all the blue truths that had just been given. Most of all, she examined the truth about who the culprit was. Finally, she turned towards the detective who had given them, and bowed her head.

"A graceful opponent knows when she is beaten. There are some minor flaws in your theories, but the thrust of them is true. You determined the workaround of a poison-that-is-not-poison, you realized that the item that Maria took from Kinzo was of vital importance, you realized how Jessica's room was breached, and you have presented theories on gathering the stake that I cannot easily refute without giving the whole game away. ..I cede this gameboard."

With that, the stage went dark for a moment, and then the lights came back up, revealing the scene that had been left on pause.



Genji continued as he stood, eyeing the clock. "In order to explain the events here, allow me to go through each murder one by one, starting with the first."

Eva nodded. "Father."
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Hello /seacats/ this time I would like to propose a gameboard quite different from the rest, in this gameboard you have to prove that a Witch did it, instead of solving a mystery

Some of the rules are the following:
>You can only explain magic with characters from Umineko. therefore if none of the characters can do certain things, its a blue you can't use

>I will use a modified Van dine and Knox, which means instead of forbidding magic and supernatural things, they will forbide human and science things.

This gameboard is to that you can give up and accept that WITCHES don't exist.

if someone is interested I will explain everything with more details.
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Alright, I'll bite. Sounds like it'll be a test of imagination rather than logic, in a sense. I'll test my imagination any day.

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The Idea is you have to play as a hated Character and defend yourself in court and it wouldn't be based on Umineko without Umineko Characters like Erika and Dlanor who are the prosecution against the defense and defendants Vernon and Petunia Dursley oh and Beatrice and Maria took the entire courtroom of people to the metaverse for this trial

Embezzlement, Acomplese to murder, Tampering with the crime scene, Abuse(Of Harry Potter), and Murder(Of Harry Potter)

Fabricated Police Files, Body whereabouts(Of Harry, Lily, and James) Unknown, Testimony of the Killer, Testimony of the Dead, Testimony of Friends, House Search, and Other Murders directed at People the Dursley's know

Other Deaths:
Marge Dursley, Teachers at Dudley Dursley's old Elementry, Grunning Executives, Dudley Dursley's Friends, Pivet Drive Residents, and Dudley Dursley Himself

anyone can play however there are rules

Prosecution(Erika and Dlanor): must watch the embedded video, must prove all charges true

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