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11835 No. 11835 Locked edit hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Welcome Welcome, I salute you my name is Lion and I will welcome you to this Carnival in which the Ushiromiya family is the main attraction, welcome welcome,

but first, we will salute our golden mistress, Beatrice-sama, who will gave us the honor of showing us magic and ptrove that Magic exist......

-Welcome everybody, I am beatrice the legendary Golden witch
This time I have an opponent on my mind and that one will beAkihiko-kun.

This heretic claims that witches don't exist, therefore I will challengue him to a Special gameboard

The setting will be Rokkenjima
and the pieces will be the Ushiromiya family, with Ange and Lion as additional pieces. Therefore this are the special rules for this gameboard:


Lion Ushiromiya, Kanon, Shannon are separate persons
Ange had good health and could go to the island
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>> No. 11935 edit
>>11897

Not at all
>> No. 11936 edit
Specify the time that door stayed locked, it's impossible for the door to have been locked for this entire time, or else it'll be a logic error for you.
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>>11936
Since the start until Eva the servants and the cousins the door was locked.
>> No. 11938 edit
Okay. They might have died before the start, which means that they were dead in the first place, locked in the lobby the entire day until the morning when everyone woke up and opened the door.

Also, repeat in red "It's impossible to unscew the door hinges"

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11873 No. 11873 Locked edit hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Hello there, I am Akihiko and you must be Sanitel. My job is to prepare you to challenge this gameboard. Your opponent will be Beatrice-sama, the golden witch.

You may use the blue truth to present your theories.

The witch side however, can use the red truth which is the absolute truth that needs no proof to back it up.

Your role is to spectate the game and whenever a twilight ends you have to explain it with human tricks, if you can hihihi.

You cannot control any of the pieces in the gameboard however you can trust what Battler sees, since he's the detective of this game.

Also, in this game Shannon and Kanon aren't the same person, which means they are seperate people.

The only humans in Rokkenjima are Battler, George, Jessica, Maria, Kyrie, Rudolf, Rosa, Natsuhi, Krauss, Shannon, Kanon, Kumasawa, Genji, Gohda, Eva, Hideyoshi, Dr. Nanjo and Kinzo, which means that there are no more than 18 humans in this island.

Also, only Knox's 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th and 10th apply. (8th does not apply because you will get more than enough clues from red truths)
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Repeat in red: "Among these six deaths no accidents or suicides took place."

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Among six deaths no accidents or suicides took place.
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"Didn't have to kill Shannon, Kannon and Kumasawa at the time the murders took place."
That so? In that case, the culprit killed Shannon, Kannon and Kumasawa some time after dinner, when Gohda left the kitchen, but before night.
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Good, You've solved the first twilight. We'll move on to the second twilight soon.


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11839 No. 11839 Locked edit hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Since we have both read each other's games we can start right away.

You can have the first move.
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>>11840
The murderer is not inside the rooms.

Rudolf's body is no longer whole. It has been altered in a way to leave the room without the need of the door or window.
An example would be acid being used to dissolve the body, which then left the room via the drain.

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Rudolf did not leave the room.

"It is impossible to pass a key into an area when the locks is set.
Neither George or Shannon locked the rooms."


All the prior red concerning the locking of the rooms does not apply to the chains and/or windows.
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>>11843
Those reds apply to the chain and window locks.


>Rudolf is not in the room anymore.
>Rudolf did not leave the room.
Well then.
Even if Rudolf's body was melted it may not count as Rudolf.
Therefore we cannot say with 100% confidence that Rudolf nor any part of the body is in the room.
ie that blood found in the room is from Rudolf. Or in fact his whole dissolved corpse.

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Well that was fast, yes you got most of it. Good game!

Mion is the culprit. He killed Rudolf and then suicided. The trick was to make everyone believe that Rudolf/Kanon is the killer, so I can do the wordplay to make him disappear. Here is the trick .

When Mion killed him he cut him with the knife, he cut everything and then used the bathroom to flush every little bit of Rudolf through it. When Rudolf's corpse could not be recognized as a corpse, he ceased to exist. Therefore Rudolf never did any action after that, Rudolf was no more. Mion made the pieces leave the room through the bathroom and suicided to cover the bloody room.


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11770 No. 11770 Locked edit hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Very well, I assume you have already read my game as I have read yours. In case you haven't, please do. We will begin as soon you decide you're ready.
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Well, would have been simple if it was a problem with red, but since both blues have been denied as you have prepared for it seems this is a stalemate. You both made 25 blues and each made reds to deny each others.

I think if either of you want to throw in the towel that is fine. It seems Rika already has volunteered so if that is what you wish then I won't stop you.
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Originally I planned to give up as well, but that would mean having no final round, no fun etc. I will continue to the last round, if Ozaki accepts it, but I'm not posting another blue for this one.

The game was great Rika, I was very sure of some of my blues but you skillfully blocked them or deceived me. Really, being older here doesn't really helps me solving other's mysteries.
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>>11831
That was pretty much what I was intending, yeah. The core trick behind it isn't really anything speial, but I hoped that setting up all that stuff with the keys around it would distract people from the actual answer. Evidently it worked pretty well~

The solution:

Kinzo's study is located directly above the VIP room. Due to an unfortunate accident before the family conference, a hole was made in the floor of Kinzo's study which goes through the ceiling of the VIP room.

This is why Krauss forbade the VIP room to be entered without his explicit permission, because he was afraid one of the siblings would enter and notice the hole which would allow them to see into Kinzo's study, breaking the illusion of his death.

That night, Eva sneaked into Kinzo's study through the window in an attempt to expose his death. Krauss noticed her sneaking around, and in a panic, he entered Kinzo's study himself to try and get her out. She had already entered, and a struggle ensued. During said struggle, Eva pushed Krauss into the hole, causing him to fall into the VIP room. He died due to blunt force trauma from the fall.

To try and cover up the murder, Eva decided to make it look like a witch had done it by drawing the magic circle on the door. To further create the sense that it was impossible for a human, she located the VIP room key and threw that into the hole in the floor of Kinzo's study. She then sealed up the hole so that nobody would know it had ever been there.


...So yeah, it was a little farfetched. The trick here was that my red statement that no entrances or exits exist aside from the door and window only applies to the present time.
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>>11833
No, not at all. Actually by using it yourself you deceived me into thinking the possibility wouldn't be worth trying. My only complaint would be that I can't find any hint or obscure clue in the paragraph, but I guess we never stated they should be there. Oh well, CRB are mind games, indeed. Great game.


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Battler, Jessica and Maria stood in shock at the scene displayed before them. The sight of George’s corpse sprawled on top of the crimson bed sheets was permanently burned into their memories at that moment. After each of them had calmed down (as much as possible) Battler began to investigate the room and noticed something odd.

Alongside the corpse there were two keys. Jessica informed Battler that one belonged to this room, and then other was Kumasawa’s master key. Upon further investigation Battler also brought to light the fact each window had been locked from the inside, and that they were forced to unlock the deadbolt and also cut the chain in order to enter the room.

Jessica who couldn’t quite understand asked Battler to explain. He continued, reminding her by pulling them out of his pocket that he held three of the master keys; the others in the possession of Genji and Shannon. Following this revelation the group lock the door and left to go find Genji.

From what Battler remembered Genji was reading in the Parlor, and sure enough that is where they found him. Upon interrogating Genji he provided his own Master key, and stated he had not once left this room. The others in the room (Rosa and Hideyoshi) testified to this. Upon explaining what exactly had happened Hideyoshi joined the group as they decided the best course of action was to find Shannon and the remaining master key.

Rosa had recalled that Shannon had mentioned going back to her room so that is where our group went to first. However, upon arrival they discovered disturbing red markings on the door. Shortly after an even creepier explanation from Maria, the group attempted to enter the room, not only to find it locked via deadbolt but also with the chain set; exactly like George’s room.

They all knew what this meant and made quick work of the chain. Their predictions had been correct; for inside the room Shannon was found dead in a very similar state as George. After investigating Battler found each window was locked from the inside and two keys had also been found; those being Shannon’s master key and the key to the room.
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>>11757
I won't deny it, but guess game is a little harsh. But if I don't post a red it will probably consider this the end. So, The culprit never set foot in the sunroom until after Jessica's corpse was found.

One of them had a delayed death. They didn't die instantly so they had time to lock the door/chain/window.
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>>11758
Neither George or Shannon locked the rooms.

I see. Well with the knife red and that last red then I imagine The knife was stabbed into Jessica through that opening.
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>>11759
That dang vague blue. Ruined everything, the whole trick never even got a show. Ticks me off greatly...
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>>11760
Jessica received a drink of Hideyoshi, which she didn't know had sleeping stuff mixed in. After drinking it, she feel asleep.

Key to the room is on the table as is the key to the drawer.

Eva climbed up onto the roof and opened a hatch that was on top. She aimed right over Jessica and dropped a knife. The force from the gravity caused it to stab into Jessica.

She then lowered a magnet down on string to grab the key to the room, she them moved it over the drawer and pried it off used the edges on end front of the drawer. She then moved her needlessly complex string device to over to the key to the drawer and snatched it up the same way. She moved it over to the drawer and inserted it. By maneuvering it just right she got the key to lock (I forget the exact method you can use, but it is possible at least under certain circumstances, I got it to work..) Tug a little to pull it out. (Once again foggy memory on exactly how, since I did this so long ago..) Swing back over to Jessica lower into pocket shake vigorously repeatedly until magnet or key gets loose.


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