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Thread #1
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A man, one you recognize as having been the man in the portrait, appears in front of you in a flash of light. The world all around shatters as fog and mist envelop the area. As it clears you find yourself standing in a great barren wasteland. Swords lie about jutting out of the ground, and great gears spin in the background.

"Welcome, esteemed detectives, to my domain. I open this thread to challenge you all to unlock the truth of these days, to discover how the events unfolded. Others may join in as well (I do in fact gladly accept their challenge), but the three in-game detectives of Squitcher, RIKA-Beatrice and Eccaia are the primary subjects of concern. Without further ado, allow us to begin. Have you any questions, problems, complaints, concerns? If not then we can begin pursuing the truth.

Also, just for the record: Tomitake and Ozaki are the same person.

Manifestation #1
I am the bone of my sword.
Two men dead in the third floor study.
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>>10427
The latch could be opened even when it was set. Therefore, the culprit could enter the study through the window! Tomitake noticed the fault with the latch while sneaking around the courtyard on the first day. Then he killed Rudolf and left through the door, which automatically locked behind him! As for Kinzo, his alcohol was poisoned! Anyone could have sneaked into the study at some point and poisoned one of Kinzo's wine bottles. There's nothing strange about it!
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>>10428
You would have required a ladder to get to the third floor study window from outside. No such ladder exists.

The alcohol Kinzo drank was not tampered with.
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>>10429
But you can't repeat the part about needing a laddder in red, right? The culprit got up there by other means, such as a rope!
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>>10430
The window is not involved in the howdunnit in this set of murders.
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>>10431
"I see, so that's only for how they got Kinzo's corpse out of the study later, is it?"

Then Rudolf or Kinzo let the culprit into the study.
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>>10432
Neither Rudolf nor Kinzo let the culprit into the study.
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>>10429
Clarification please, does "tampered with" apply to Kinzo's action on the flask or the bottles as much as someone else ?

>>10433
Kinzo died of natural causes
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>>10434
The absinthe that Kinzo drank was just absinthe (prepared or not). There was nothing in it that would surprise an absinthe drinker (adding sugar and water is typical, etc). Furthermore
he prepared the drink himself and no tampering occurred before or after that.

Kinzo was murdered.
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>>10437
I guess that rules out suicide entirely then.

Kinzo's flask, not the alcool, was poisoned, which meant that as soon that he'd put his lips over the flask to drink, he'd be unknowingly swallowing poison.
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>>10438
The flask was not poisoned.
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>>10439

I'm not particularly interested in the way he did managed to get inside since I have dozen of theories about it, but I should probably get on to it regardless.

The culprit stole Kinzo or Genji's key.

Supposing Rudolf was granted access to the study by Kinzo, the culprit profited of the moment Rudolf entered to enter as well.

The door was blocked by some object, not allowing the auto-lock to activate.

The culprit lock picked the door.


Considering Kinzo's murder, I'm supposing that "murdering" means willingly causing one's death :

The culprit forced Kinzo to drink 'till he died. After all, absinthe is a pretty fucking strong alcohol.

Which is not unlike what Nanjo said.

Otherwise,

The culprit caused Kinzo to have a heart attack by startling him or something

I doubt someone such as Kinzo would die this way, but you never know.
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>>10440
Hmmm, the culprit did not possess Kinzo or Genji's key to the study at any time during the game.

The culprit did not sneak in whilst someone else was being let in.

The door was not blocked open.

The door was not lock-picked.

True, Kinzo died from the alcohol in his system, but he knew his limits and would not accidentally drink too much alcohol.
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>>10441
>would not accidentally drink too much alcohol.
I think you misread what I said.

>>10440
The culprit forced Kinzo to drink 'till he died.
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>>10442
Ah, right. Kinzo was not forced to drink alcohol.
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>>10433
Heh, this blue should have naturally came right after that answer.
Then, someone other than Rudolf or Kinzo let the culprit inside the study, that person could have been let in by KInzo or Rudolf, or by one of the ways I described in this post.
>>10440
Just replace culprit by a third party.

>>10441
Kinzo wasn't in his normal state and could have drank himself to death
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>>10448
The culprit got into the room by his own means, this means that no one aided him in his entering.

But Kinzo was murdered. This means it was not an accident such as drinking himself to death.
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>>10449
Repeat this in red :
"The only means of entry to the 3rd floor study are the front door and the window."
and
"The only way to open the door of the study from the outside is by possessing either Genji or Kinzo's key."

>>10449
If the culprit willingly caused Kinzo's state which led him to drink himself to death, it can be considered as murder
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>>10450
The only means of entry to the 3rd floor study are the front door and the window. Furthermore, the only keys Kinzo had made to his study were the one he possessed and the one Genji possessed.

Kinzo did not die from drinking too much alcohol.
This is not a logic error.
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>>10451
A third key of the study, not made by Kinzo, exists.

As for the drink, I think I get it.
The culprit managed to make Kinzo absorb/swallow a chemical or some similar stuff that, when it would enter in contact with absinthe or alcool in general, it would kill him.
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>>10452
Correct, A third key of the study, not made by Kinzo, exists.

But that doesn't mean I've lost yet! The only poisonous substance in Kinzo's body is alcohol. Kinzo died from alcohol poisoning but not from drinking it. Clearly magic was used to turn his innards into alcohol.
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>>10453
I guess that does explain how Kinzo's body disappeared and the last murders. S much for me saying this place was the safest eh.

I'm kinda lost at the last red. Do you mean to say that while Kinzo drank an amount of alcohol insufficient to kill him, more alcohol appeared in his body, but not by his will, and killed him ?
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>>10454
Sure, he drank alcohol, but not enough to kill him. Yet he died from too much alcohol. Clearly I used magic.
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>>10455
Heh, don't count on me to give up so easily.

After he drank his absinthe, Kinzo tried to drink a non-alcoholic beverage from his flask, but the culprit had filled the flask with alcohol without Kinzo knowing.

If it ain't the flask, just replace it with a bottle, a glass or whatever.
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>>10456
The last dose of alcohol, the one which killed him, was not consumed, intentionally or otherwise, by Kinzo. That is, he did not drink or eat the last dose(s) of alcohol.
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>>10457
Then, a needle ! The culprit injected alcohol directly into Kinzo's veins using a needle
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>>10458
Correct. Had you made an additional search of Kinzo's corpse particularly questioning the toes (since his socks were off), you would have found where he was injected: in between the 5th and 6th toe.

The culprit sneaked into the room and killed Kinzo in his sleep. Rudolf was outside the room when the culprit attempted to leave, so the culprit lured Rudolf into the room and killed him. Add a little mess to add to the idea of a huge fight, and we have ourselves a closed room.
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Manifestation #2
Steel is my body, and fire is my blood.
Two women dead in the downstairs furnace room.
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>>10459
This one seems pretty straightforward :
Eva and Rosa both went out of their room, I'm guessing they were called by the culprit, then, the culprit killed them/knocked them unconscious and finally put the bodies in the boiler and turned it on.

As for how he got out of the room, I'm gonna steal Erika and Eccaia's theory :
The culprit set the latch on the backdoor, then placed the wooden board against the door so that it would block the door when he would close it, so that he'd be outside and the door would be blocked
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>>10460
That method of delayed blocking of the door was not used.
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>>10461
Okay repeat this in red :
The only means of exit and entry of this room are the backdoor and the front door.
It is impossible to set the latch of the backdoor from the outside.

And, well just to be sure :
Eva and Rosa were murdered by someone else.
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>>10469
I refuse, I will not give a reason why.
It is impossible to set the latch of the backdoor from the outside.
Eva and Rosa were murdered by someone else.

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>>10470
Ahah ! I should definitely set the bases clear before I start throwing blues around, it's much more convenient~

Then, this seems obvious !
No matter how you look at it, a third exit exists ! The culprit used a third exit after having set the latch and blocked the door to get out.
This third exit could be anything, but I'd personally bet on the vent, though in the realm of silly possibilities, the furnace itself could hide some kind of escape, or simply a secret passage exists.
Well, in any case, a third exit definitely was used by the culprit !


So, what do you think of this, darling ?
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>>10471
"That is correct. The massive vent was used as a third exit.
Naturally you would have had to turn off the furnace first and wait for it to cool down before doing so."

From behind you a different man appears. This time it is one you recognize well.

"Alright then enough of his closed rooms. This time it's mine you will have to face."

I have created over a thousand blades
Unknown to death, nor known to life.

The destroyed servant, deceased detective and the vanishing corpse.

You can start on whichever one you want.
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>>10473
Oh, I'd kind of stopped checking this place since it was down for a while. But it's quite fitting that Squitcher-san should fight that other man while I fight my rival, isn't it?

After leaving with Genji, you went to the servant's room and replaced the kitchen key with a different key to make it look like the kitchen key hadn't been used. You then locked the servant's room with Genji' master key, and got into Kinzo's study using the faulty window latch to remove Kinzo's corpse. Then, you took it to the kitchen, where you proceeded to dress it in your own clothes and stab it to the point where it was unrecognisable. Afterwards, you placed Genji's master key in the room, left the room, locked it with the kitchen key, and both went hiding somewhere. Genji was the one who later dressed up as the man in red and murdered the survivors.
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>>10474
Heh, I guess I should let you handle that one, I stole too much of the spotlight already.
Call me if you have any trouble, I'll be running at your rescue like a prince in shining armor~
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>>10474
Well I already knew you had the answer to that one.
Correct. The window was used to remove Kinzo's corpse from the study. I bent the latch while inside the room investigating the first deaths.

However the rest of your theory is no good, no good at all.
You found the one and only kitchen key inside the locked servant's room.
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>>10477
Wow, did you actually just say that? Thanks for the offer, although I don't swing that way.

>>10478
Then what about the other keys? Perhaps the master key we found inside the room wasn't Genji's, or one of the other servants' master keys was replaced with a fake at some point.

Also, can you confirm that all the doors and windows to the kitchen and the servant's room cannot be locked from the outside without the specified key? And that there are only five master keys?
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>>10479
Sure.
During the course of this game there have been no fake master keys.

There is only 5 master keys.

The key you found in the room was Genji's master key.

It is impossible to lock the entrances/exits of the kitchen and servant room from the outside without the use of a key.

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>>10481
Just to be sure, can you confirm that the door to the kitchen can only be opened by a master key or the kitchen key, and that the door to the servant's room can only be opened by a master key?
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>>10482
Opened or locked, that is.
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>>10482
The doors to the kitchen can only be locked and opened from the outside by a master key or the kitchen key.
The door to the servant room can only be locked and opened from the outside via master key.

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>>10487
The kitchen key was left outside the servant's room. While we were investigating the kitchen, one of the servants slipped away, put the kitchen key in the servant's room and locked the door with their master key.

Or there is an exit in the kitchen or the servant's room which we were not aware of, and therefore wasn't locked after the culprit or an accomplice escaped through it. Or there is a secret area in one of the rooms where the culprit or an accomplice was hiding.

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From when all the groups converged in the boiler room to when you all entered the servant room the only people who separated from that group was Jiro and Genji.
The people in the group at that time was; George, Jessica, Battler, Natsuhi, Krauss, Kyrie, Hideyoshi, Maria, Kanon, Shannon, Gohda, Kumasawa, Squitcher, Rika-Beatrice, Eccaia.
There are no hidden areas or passages in the kitchen or servant room.

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>>10489
Did you forget Nanjo? Anyway...

A window could have been locked from the inside while still remaining open, and then closed from outside. The same applies to a door.
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The doors and windows to both rooms can o nly be locked while they are shut and closed.
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>>10491
The culprit or an accomplice was hidden underneath, or behind, some of the boxes in the cold storage, in a part that we didn't check. This doesn't count as a "hidden area" since we could have found them if we'd inspected it more thoroughly. This person, whether alive or dead, locked the doors in the kitchen from the inside, breaking the closed room.

Alternative theory: One of the servants quickly put the kitchen key inside the servant's room immediately after we entered and before we found it.

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>>10492
If anyone was underneath or behind the boxes the detectives and npc's would have instantly noticed them.

It seems you keep trying that accomplice theory so I'll get that out of the way.

Ozaki does not have an accomplice.
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>>10493
There exists a small gap in the wall or door or window or floor of one of the rooms, which does not count as a hidden passage because a human could not enter or exit through it. The key was passed through this gap from the outside after being used to lock the door.
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>>10494
For this game hidden passages refers to; any unknown opening that allows entry of an object into the room from the outside regardless of whether the doors and windows are locked and or closed.
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>>10495
Ozaki hid in some other area in one of the rooms that we didn't fully investigate, but wasn't classed as a "hidden area"! Inside a cabinet, inside the oven, under a table, behind the cooler, and so on!
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>>10496
Ah right, you guys didn't investigate everything. No matter I'll deny that for you too.

The only area you didn't investigate that a human could have hidden in was the oven or cabinets; If you had searched either you would have found them to be empty.
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>>10498
There are no hidden passages by the time we reached the scene, but there were at an earlier time! Ozaki blocked off the hidden passage after using it either to escape himself or to get a key into the room! For example, he could have made a gap in the wall and then repaired it, or broken a window and then repaired it, and so on!
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>>10499
There has never been any hidden passages in the kitchen or servant room during the course of this game.
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>>10500
Regarding the definition of a hidden passage, what is the definition of an 'unknown opening'? Are you able to define it as 'any opening besides the windows and doors'?
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>>10523
Yes. An unknown opening would be any passage undiscovered by the detectives.

The only openings and exits into the kitchen are the two doors and the windows.
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>>10524
At some point, Ozaki stole a master key from one of the servants other than Genji! Then he put the master key on the floor outside the servant's room after using it to lock the kitchen. The servant saw it, assumed they had dropped it themselves, and inconspicuously picked it up. That's how they were able to hand over their master key later!
>> No. 10526 edit
>>10525
When ozaki and Genji left the boiler room the rest of the servants each had their own master keys. From then to when they handed over their keys to the detectives they never separated with them.
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Seems like you're having some troubles here, should I join ?
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>>10544
I might have to call on you soon, but I really want to get this one by myself if at all possible.

I still have a few moves left to try before I can give up. Just trying to organise my thoughts and examine each red statement carefully at the moment.
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>>10545
Alright, I'll wait then and simply cheer you on. Good luck.
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Searching both the oven and the cabinets would have led to us finding Ozaki! If we had searched either one, we would have found it empty, but not if we had searched both!

The body in the room is not dead! It really was Ozaki and he really was still alive! He locked the door from the inside and then played dead using the blood from the pork and a lot of shallow wounds that looked deeper than they really were! Or his clothes had special slots through which a knife could slip without causing him damage, like a magician's dismembering trick!

Or the body in the room is neither Ozaki nor Kinzo, it was Genji! Genji was stabbed repeatedly by Ozaki, then Ozaki left the room and Genji locked the door from inside before dying! Or Genji committed suicide after locking the door, for some reason that didn't involve being Ozaki's accomplice!

Ozaki is secretly classified as a servant, and one of the other servants is not! That way there are still only five master keys and Ozaki can still have used a master key to lock the door! That's why Kinzo invited him to the island, because he was actually some kind of elite personal assassin or something! Or maybe it's not Ozaki, but the man in red who is a servant, and Ozaki used his master key! That would explain why the man in red had a secret extra key to Kinzo's study!

Doors and/or windows can be opened and/or passed through while they are locked!!

Or the craziest of all: this closed room was set up before the groups converged in the boiler room! Ozaki separated from his group while the four of us were split up, and set up the closed room at that time! Therefore he could have taken a master key from one of the servants and returned it at some point without violating the previous red statement!


Can you say the line you stated earlier, 'An unknown opening refers to any passage undiscovered by the detectives' in red? By the way, you have defined a hidden passage as an unknown opening, but then defined an unknown opening as a passage, which makes for a circular definition. Can you confirm specifically that an 'opening' or 'passage' refers to anything that allows entry of an object into a room, regardless of whether it is a door, a window, a hole, a gap, a trapdoor, etc?
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>>10547
If you had searched both the cabinet and the oven you would have yielded the same results.
The body you found in the room was dead. The knifes clearly stabbed into the body and would have killed any human.
This is a homicide. Genji did not lock any window or door from the inside. The body was in fact Genji dressed up in Ozaki’s clothing.
The only servants in this game are Gohda, Kanon, Shannon, Kumasawa, Genji. Ozaki is not a servant.
When the doors and windows are shut and closed there is no way into or out of the room for a human.
The closed room was set up after the convergence in the boiler room.
An unknown opening refers to any passage undiscovered by the detectives.
Opening and passage both refer to any opening large enough to fit a key into the room. Excluding when one of the doors or windows is opened none of these exist.

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>>10548
Do those reds about the doors and windows apply to both the kitchen and the servant room?
>> No. 10550 edit
>>10549
Yes they apply to the servant room as well.
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>>10547
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>>10550
Ozaki was hiding in the cabinets or the oven initially, but then stealthily left the room while everyone was distracted by the body. Therefore if we had checked the cabinets or oven after that, we would have found them empty, but that does not mean that nobody was ever inside them.
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During the course of this game nobody ever hid inside the cabinets or the oven.
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>>10561
Ozaki was not hiding in the cabinets or oven; he was just standing very near the door, pressed against the wall so that nobody would notice him unless they happened to look in that direction. Then, as everyone rushed towards the body, Ozaki quickly sneaked out through the door.

In short, it would be appreciated if you could deny that someone was inside the room at the time that we unlocked the door, if possible.
>> No. 10563 edit
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>>10562
I would think the close to a dozen people entering the small room would be enough assurance.

Ozaki was not hiding behind the door as anyone would have noticed if someone was standing there.
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>>10563
But you're still not quite denying it, are you?

Are you unable to say that "immediately before we unlocked the door, no living human was inside the kitchen?" And the same for the servant's room?
>> No. 10565 edit
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You all investigated the rooms didn't you? I also confirmed the only hiding spots and denied them. Which applies to the servant room too.

I find it rather implausible that someone is hiding in the room. Unless they were inside the body or something silly like that.
>> No. 10566 edit
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>>10565
I just find it a little suspicious that you keep shying away from saying it outright, but fair enough. I'll proceed under the assumption that nobody is hiding.

I'll have to do some brainstorming before I can come up with any more theories, though.
>> No. 10567 edit
In fighting there is such a thing as "pressing the issue." When your opponent is on the defensive, especially when you have them on the run, you need to take the advantage and push forward. It seems like Ozaki, here, might barely be avoiding defeat. A graze here, a glancing blow there, you need to utilize this advantage. If he's dancing around the issue, not giving you a straight answer, it might be because he can't give you a straight answer.
>> No. 10568 edit
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>>10567
Ha. I think I've got it.

You did indeed hide somewhere in the kitchen, and then leave while we were distracted by the body.

But it doesn't matter whether that location was a place that we had checked before or not.

Because obviously, by the time we had investigated, you had already left.

You hid in a location that we did investigate.

And that location is...
>> No. 10569 edit
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The walk-in cooler!!!
>> No. 10571 edit
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>>10568
>>10569
You blue flies across the room and impales the man in the stomach. Blood splutters from his mouth and stains the floor; however, he does not go down...

So you are saying I hid in the walk-in cooler and then left while you were all checking the body?

The other entrances/exits were locked at that time were they not? Unless you mean to say I walked through the crowd of people by the main door.
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>>10571
I don't think that's impossible, considering that everyone would have been so distracted by the body that they'd be forgiven for missing someone slip past. Especially since you could have been wearing anything at that time; perhaps you wore a servant's uniform or something so that you'd be mistaken for one of the group at a glance.

Either way, I don't feel the need to come up with anything else unless you can actually deny that you did leave through the main door.
>> No. 10573 edit
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>>10572
...Fine, I concede.

Ozaki was hiding in the walk-in cooler. For reasons unknown you couldn't find him.

Alright then, on to the next death.
>> No. 10574 edit
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>>10573
Have withstood pain to create many weapons
Yet those hands will never hold anything

George's death.

Take 'er away.
>> No. 10575 edit
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>>10574
Ozaki was standing outside the room with the Winchester rifle, waiting for someone to leave. As soon as George left the room, he shot him and then quickly ran away.
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>>10575
That is correct.

George was simple shot by the waiting assailant at the end of the hall.

No mystery there really. Lets move on again shall we?
>> No. 10577 edit
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>>10576
So, as I pray, UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS

The mysterious man in red found in front of the portrait.
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10578
I'm back baby ! Good job you did there Erika, now, it's my time to shine once again !

The body was either Kinzo or Genji's body disguised as another person.
>> No. 10579 edit
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>>10578
Correct.
The body was Kinzo's.

The rest of the mysteries I will leave for Rudolf to answer to.
>> No. 10580 edit
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>> No. 10581 edit
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So then, what is it that happened in the study while you were all gone? How did they die? Who did it and when? Finally, what is going to happen to you all now?
>> No. 10582 edit
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>>10581
Well, it's pretty simple, isn't it ?

A culprit, different from Ozaki, entered the study using the 3rd key in his possession and killed everyone in it. Afterwards, either he vanished, or if he was among the known persons, he killed himself or faked his death to make it look like everyone had been killed by someone else.

About what's going to happen from there... We're gonna kick that bastards in the face after having found out who he was, and then we're gonna live happily ever after with the Rokkenjima gold, also Ozaki kills himself out of depression later on.
>> No. 10583 edit
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>>10582
Ozaki does not have an accomplice.
>> No. 10584 edit
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>>10583
Why does it have to be an accomplice? Can't it be someone else acting independently of Ozaki?
>> No. 10586 edit
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There is no evildoer on the island independent of Ozaki
>> No. 10587 edit
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>>10586
Well then, that basically confirms that Ozaki killed them, doesn't it?

Ozaki murdered everyone in the study after we left for the chapel.
>> No. 10588 edit
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Ozaki did not murder the people in the study after you left to go to the chapel.
>> No. 10589 edit
>>10586
>>10588
Let's not start another argument about the definition of evil here, please.
>> No. 10590 edit
>>10583
Well then Ozaki is an accomplice.Simple really.

If that is not so, I request the definition of accomplice and the definition and evildoer.
>> No. 10591 edit
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>>10590
That's right. I was an accomplice.

It only makes sense. After all I helped Rudolf to make this revamp.
>> No. 10592 edit
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>>10591
Eh ? I had this theory up since you first said that red, I just thought it was silly. Well, then the way you escaped the walk-in cooler is rather simple :
You simply disguised as the culprit, that way you managed to get away without anyone thinking weirdly of your presence

As for the actual culprit... Hmm... Let me think...
>> No. 10593 edit
>>10592
Besides the Tomitake disguise I never used another one. If I had tried that in the cooler you would have instantly noticed me.

Anyway have fun solving the culprit.
>> No. 10594 edit
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>>10593
Wait, I will not let go of this so easily.

Because of the red, it seems like the accomplice fact is completely irrelevant.

I want you to confirm in red that the walk-in cooler is considered part of the kitchen, and as such that any general red about the kitchen also concerns the walk-in cooler, especially this one :

The only area you didn't investigate that a human could have hidden in was the oven or cabinets; If you had searched either you would have found them to be empty.
>> No. 10595 edit
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>>10594
Yeah I was worried you would think that. I guess it needs to be in red even with the map.

The cooler and the main room of the kitchen are both part of the kitchen. When I say kitchen I refer to the whole kitchen which includes the cooler and the main room.
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>>10595
Confirm that there is only one unique entry and exit from the walk-in cooler, such as it would be impossible for a passage we wouldn't know about to exit, but not something that lead to the outside ( the rest of the mansion ) like the red concerning hidden passages define, but rather only an enclosed place that is neither considered part of the outside nor considered part of the kitchen, so that neither the red defining the hidden passages and the hiding places could apply to it.
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>>10596
There is only one entrance/exit to the cooler. Said entrance/exit only leads into the main room of the kitchen.
>> No. 10609 edit
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10609
I retract my previous statement of passing my duty. I will be responding to your theories again. Rudolf busy etc.

I'm going to assume you are either busy or stumped. In that case I suggest asking why and how the rest of the murders even happened. They are not mysteries per se but I believe they can help with the who.
>> No. 10617 edit
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"Oh, what a marvelous spectacle of perseverance I'm witnessing! Red truth here and there! Blue truth there and here!! YES! It seems that Ozaki-sama lead me to another interesting game board!"
>> No. 10618 edit
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>>10609
Yeah, sorry, I don't know about Squitcher-san but I'm not really sure where to go from here. The NPC pieces have barely even spoken in this gameboard, and usually only when we've been the ones to initiate conversation, so I don't really know where to begin in trying to find a motive for one of them. And trying to find them based on opportunity doesn't really work either since none of them have alibis for anything.
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>>10618
Well, it is the same for me concerning the who and why, the only thing that pushes me to blame one or the other is because they were the only one among the NPCs to act, which I don't think is a particularly great way to start off, and I don't plan on blaming every person one after the other.

As for the who, I'm still stumped but various things left me busy so I haven't had time to think about it more closely.
>> No. 10621 edit
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>>10619
>>10618
Yeah seems we are on the same page.
In any case I'll try to make this work.

Rudolf went to the study on his on accord. He did not talk to Eva or Rosa at all during the night. Eva and Rosa did not talk to each other. Hideyoshi honestly had no idea where Eva went. Rosa and Eva wished to stay in their room the whole night. Hideyoshi never left his room during the night.

Well then, can you explain this? Obviously I just used my magic to teleport them to the boiler room.
>> No. 10622 edit
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>>10621
Ozaki went into their rooms and kidnapped them. Simple. Possibly they were drugged so that they wouldn't be able to resist, or Hideyoshi just slept through the whole thing because he's Hideyoshi.
>> No. 10623 edit
>>10622
Oh, or the actual culprit took them instead of Ozaki. Same difference.
>> No. 10624 edit
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>>10622
Your blue slashes the man's cheek.
Neither the culprit or Ozaki entered the room.
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>>10624
...Room singular? Which room are you referring to? Anyway...

There is another accomplice aside from Ozaki. This person is the one who entered their rooms.
>> No. 10626 edit
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>>10625
Ozaki is the only accimplice.
The last red applies for both rooms.

>> No. 10627 edit
>>10626
The culprit or Ozaki called Eva and Rosa out separately pretending they had something very important to tell them, concerning the epitaph, Kinzo, etc...
>> No. 10629 edit
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>>10627
Ozaki was in the guesthouse which was guarded by the servants like the rest of you. How would have he even gotten out?

The culprit and or Ozaki never talked to Eva or Rosa in order to draw them out of the room. Nothing Ozaki or the culprit said caused the women to leave their rooms.
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>>10629
The culprit didn't talk to them, he just knocked on the door. Then, when they came to the door to answer, he knocked them out or something. Therefore he could lure them out without talking or entering the room.
>> No. 10631 edit
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>>10630
The man easily swats away your blue.
Neither the culprit or Ozaki knocked on the door in order to make them leave. Same goes for the window.
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>>10631
They stamped on the floor! They played a recording! They shouted something incomprehensible that didn't count as talking but would have brought them to the door!
>> No. 10633 edit
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Neither Eva or Rosa left their rooms due to a sound.
>> No. 10634 edit
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>>10633
Letters were slipped into their rooms which told them to leave their room in the middle of the night and meet with the culprit.
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>>10634
Eva and Rosa did not read anything that caused them to leave the room. They did not get any letter from the culprit whatsoever.
>> No. 10636 edit
"Perhaps they left their rooms on their own terms. Didn't the two make some type of deal about Kinzo's gold in the visual novel?"
>> No. 10637 edit
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>>10636
The only one who made such a plan was Rudolf with Kyrie. Rosa and Eva had nothing to do with such a plan and never conceived one with anyone else, which includes each other.
>> No. 10638 edit
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>>10637
"So....could that mean that Kyire is the culprit and Ozaki is her accomplice?"
>> No. 10639 edit
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Rudolf and Kyrie's plan was only with themselves and was separate from the culprit and Ozaki's.
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>>10635
Eva and Rosa never entered their rooms that night in the first place. They were taken before they could get to their rooms.
>> No. 10642 edit
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10642
The man crushes your blue simply with his hand.
Don't you think Hideyoshi would have noticed?

Eva and Rosa both made it to, and went inside their rooms that night.
>> No. 10643 edit
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>>10639
"Rosa bags were in her room...."
Rosa never slept in her room.
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>>10642
They did enter their rooms, but then left again! They still intended to come back in a short while and then spend the rest of the night in their rooms!

Eva could have told Hideyoshi that she was just going somewhere for a short while, and not told him where, so he wouldn't have had any idea where she had gone!

>> No. 10645 edit
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>>10643
That would be correct. Eva and Rosa did not slept that night.
Unless you count an 'eternal' sleep etc.

>>10644
Correct, they left their rooms and intended to return. However they both did not want to leave the the room.

I used my magic to make them want to leave against their will. Controlling bodies is an easy task naturally.
>> No. 10646 edit
>>10643
Oh, and don't worry about intruding. The rules allow anyone to play after all.
>> No. 10647 edit
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>>10645
They saw the culprit through the window, and left because they wanted to know what they were doing walking around in the middle of the night.
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Your blue becomes brittle before it even reaches the man. As it falls to the floor he shatters it with his foot.

Neither Rosa or Eva left with the culprit on their minds. They did not leave due to seeing a person or anything else out the window.
>> No. 10650 edit
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>>10649
"What room did they did not want to leave from?"
>> No. 10651 edit
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>>10650
It was their own rooms.
>> No. 10652 edit
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>>10651
Rosa and Eva left because of Kinzo's gold.
>> No. 10655 edit
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>>10652
The gold had nothing to do with Eva and Rosa leaving the room.
>> No. 10656 edit
>>10654
They went to the toilet.
>> No. 10658 edit
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>>10655
Rosa and Eva was forced out their rooms by an individual or natural cause.
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>>10656
You know there is a bathroom in their rooms right?
They did not go to the washroom.

>>10658
Rosa and Eva left the room all according to the culprit's plan.
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>>10659
Ah, right, forgot about that.
Well, then time to spew more blues.

They left because they were sick !
They left because something had disappeared in their room !
They left because they smelled something terrible !

>> No. 10662 edit
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>>10660
Shotgun style!?

The man raises his sword to block your incoming attack.

Nothing disappeared that they would care about.
They did not leave because they smelled something.


Despite his efforts the last blue hits his shoulder.

...Correct, they were feeling ill.
Any idea how or why?
>> No. 10663 edit
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>>10662

"Both women were mothers. And Ange wasn't there..So it wouldn't make sense if Kyrie was with them."

Eva and Rosa left to go check on the cousins.
The culprit anticipated them leaving their rooms to go check on their children.

They feeling ill because of not knowing how their children were.
>> No. 10664 edit
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>>10663
They were feeling physically ill.
They did not leave to check their kids.

>> No. 10665 edit
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>>10664
"F,Food poisoning?"
>> No. 10666 edit
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>>10665
...The food at dinner wasn't poisoned.
>> No. 10668 edit
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>>10666
"Okay... However, they were physically ill...
If they were felling ill wouldn't they go to the nearest person to a doctor?"

Whenever Rosa and Eva left their rooms they went to go see Dr. Nanjo.
>> No. 10669 edit
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>>10666
Mhh. I'd have assumed it was something at the dinner table in any case. Is it considered poison if it wasn't supposed to kill them ? I won't bother making a blue about this, I hope you will confirm that it wasn't necessary.

Any way, if it wasn't food it might have been something in their drinks.

Or maybe did the culprit put something in their room that'd make them sick.

Or simply he raised the temperature of the mansion from the boiler to make people unaccustomed to heat or some bullshit like that, whatever you caught my drift.

>> No. 10670 edit
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>>10668
...Correct, they went to see Nanjo.

>>10669
Alright then seems no longer any use to beat around the bush.
There was a non lethal substance put into their food. It caused them to leave during the night to seek medicine from Nanjo.
>> No. 10671 edit
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>>10670
A red technically denying Nanjo being the culprit?
Sorry for asking, but can you repeat that red for me?
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>>10671
I'll just deny Nanjo since you guys would just find some crazy wordplay to make it work.

Nanjo is not the culprit.
>> No. 10673 edit
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>>10671
Damn. *Chuckles*
>> No. 10674 edit
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>>10672

"Just collecting some notes here..."

On the first night, Eva and Rosa went to go see Nanjo; however, they never made it to his room!

Rosa and Eva encountered the culprit outside the mansion!

On the first night, Nanjo slept in his guestroom, which was located in the guest house!
>> No. 10675 edit
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>>10674
Eva and Rosa went to see Nanjo, but never made it to him.

Rosa and Eva did not encounter the culprit outside of the mansion.

On the first night, Nanjo slept in his guestroom, which was located in the guest house.

>> No. 10677 edit
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>>10675

"Perhaps, process of elimination.."

Natsuhi is the culprit.
Hideyoshi is the culprit.
Krauss is the culprit.
>> No. 10678 edit
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>>10677
The main players have expressed they do not wish to win by blatantly guessing. This is the norm around here now a days.

Try to find some logic or proof behind suspecting someone or denying someone, then I shall respond with the red.
>> No. 10679 edit
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>>10678
Ah, I see. I thought it was strange that no one tried that yet.
>> No. 10681 edit
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>>10672
Isn't this part basically solved now, then? They went to see Nanjo because of their food having been tampered with, and they were intercepted by the culprit inside the mansion.
>> No. 10683 edit
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>>10681
That would be correct.
Does that bring you any closer to a culprit?
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>>10683
For now I'll ask what Rudolf wanted to.

Everyone who died at the end in the study. How were they killed?
There was a lot of people there after all... it would rather hard to use magic you know.
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>>10683
Well, it certainly narrows things down.

From simple process of elimination, I'd suspect Kanon just because it would seem odd for either Krauss or Natsuhi to have a plan that didn't involve the other. Not sure if that's a good enough reason, though~
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>>10684
Oh, okay, or this works.

The culprit could have just gone nuts with a gun and killed everyone. In that enclosed space it could be possible to kill all of them before they had a chance to fight back, or even if some of them did escape the study, they could have been pursued and killed, and then their corpses would have been dragged back into the study.

Alternatively, the group split up at some point, making it easier for the culprit to pick them off.

>> No. 10687 edit
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I was about to respond to the other post, but I'll hold off for now.

>>10686
None of the victims in the study were shot.
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>>10685
That post seems to be rather useful doesn't it. I was using it to confirm the people alive a moment ago.

Oh, I don't like the look of those red lines through... Let's fix that.

Krauss is not the culprit.
Natsuhi is not the culprit.
Kanon is not the culprit.


Maybe that was too reckless... oh well. Continue with the study if you will.
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>>10688
Mi-. Then it seems that process of elimination isn't going to work here as well as it did in your last game.

Okay then, same as above except they were stabbed with a knife or something.
>> No. 10690 edit
>>10689
Sharp objects, sure, but those injuries were not delivered by hand alone
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>>10690
Bombs, small explosives or incendiary devices were used. After all some traces of burning were found in the room, add to that sharp weapons like for example the bones used to kill Rudolf.
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>>10689
ange_on_tricks.png etc
In any case this isn't 100% my game after all.
I just helped him brainstorm, took his ideas and made them work. I basically made sure there was clues for the howdunits and a few others things. After that I Tten took what was left and made my own closed room.
Actually when I say it like that I guess this game is a collaboration.

>>10691
Seems Rudolf is not here so I'll respond for you.

That is correct. A makeshift explosive was used.
Apparently a "Meta-Bomb" that Meta used in the original second game. It was either some sort of alcohol mixture with metal fragments inside, or the barrel of a gun being sealed off and bursting via explosion. Rudolf and I have conflicting memories however it was something like that.

Anyway apparently theory time is over. So we'll have to wait for Rudolf.
>> No. 10693 edit
>>10692
At once, the illusions shatter. Color returns to the world around you. Time begins to move once again.

What was it that was happening? Oh right, you are in the third floor study. Time froze when you heard a noise of glass shattering. That can only mean one thing: a meta-bomb.
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>meta bomb
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I try to escape the explosion by running out of the room

"GOD. DAMN. IT. AAAAALL !"
>> No. 10696 edit
>>10695
You dive out of the room as the bomb goes off. You hear sounds of shrapnel scattering in the room.

The culprit must be outside somewhere, but where?
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>>10696
The best place to see the third study's windows is inevitably the courtyard.

I rush out as best as I can towards the entrance where I left Ozaki and Erika
>> No. 10698 edit
>>10697
The mansion has begun to smolder quite a bit now. Without a doubt, it seems the mansion will be engulfed by the flames this night.

You arrive in the front foyer. Archer is still there, dead.

You burst out the front door and find Rika-Beatrice, Tomitake, and the vegetable.
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>>10698
"Erika, everyone up there's dead and the whole house is starting to break down. From the study I was attacked by a handmade bomb thrown through the window, which means the other culprit is probably out there in the courtyard.

I'd be ready to take the gun and go take him out myself, but with an injured shoulder against bombs I'm afraid I might need your assistance. No idea what to do with Tomitake though, just leave Eccaia... Doing whatever she does to keep him here, he won't be able to move much in this state anyway.
So, whaddayasay ?
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>>10699
"I'm not really sure how I could help against an armed assailant, but I wouldn't want to miss the moment the truth is exposed. Eccaia-chan, make sure this guy doesn't go anywhere, okay?"

I'll follow Squitcher to the courtyard.
>> No. 10701 edit
>>10700
"Well, I should be able to defend myself in hand-to hand combat, just take care of the rifle, alright ?"
>> No. 10702 edit
Once this game is over I feel like having a stream to reminisce about the original and compared it to this. Almost like an actual after game teaparty.
If you are interested we can work out a time.
>> No. 10703 edit
Sounds cool, but I'm afraid timezones won't let me appreciate it, when would that be board-time ?
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>>10702
That sounds like fun~! I'd probably be most likely to be free in the evenings (i.e. about the time I'm posting this). Ideally not on a Monday or Tuesday.
>> No. 10705 edit
Hmm right now is when I usually leave depending on my scedule. We may have to do a midnight stream, assuming you have a few hours of free time in the morning.
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>>10705
Sorry, whose time do you mean by midnight?

Also, I could probably get on earlier than this if I had to, but I'd need to know the date before I could confirm for sure. If it's a Wednesday or a weekend then I should be able to get on at 5pm, three hours before this, if that's any good.
>> No. 10707 edit
>>10705
Sometime in (my) the evening would be best for me, it corresponds to pretty much right now, well, let's say from 10:00 to 14:00 board time, for pretty much everyday.
If it's on the weekends, I have classes Saturday Morning, that would make me free for Saturday pretty much around 3:30 Saturday Morning Board Time

This very Wednesday, I can manage to be free on 1:00 morning board time, though.
>> No. 10708 edit
It sounds like Friday starting at 9-10 and going for two to three hours would work. Otherwise the midnight board time idea, with you folks making time in the morning on any other weekday may work.
>> No. 10710 edit
>>10708
Friday 10:00 board time sounds pretty good to me.
>> No. 10711 edit
>>10710
Yeah, same here.
>> No. 10716 edit
Alright Friday it is.
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>>10716
Furaruaruaruu! Damn! If only this was the week of spring break!!....!....Ahem... Indeed, it does sound exciting. I can’t wait to witness it.
>> No. 10723 edit
You rush off toward the courtyard. The heat within the house has risen noticeably. The heat must be coming from the fire, which is slowly encroaching into the mansion. Past Archer once more, down the hall, toward the courtyard.

The door to the courtyard has been propped open, most likely by whoever is out here. You see a great deal of things piled up. Boxes, which appear to have had their contents emptied. Peering into the darkness from the doorway makes it hard to distinguish exactly what is going on, but you do notice a figure moving about. You cannot tell who it is from this distance, but you can tell they are working on something.... looks like they're laying the empty boxes' former contents along the walls inside the courtyard.
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>>10723
I'll try to get closer to see who it is.
>> No. 10725 edit
>>10724
You creep forward through the rain and the darkness. Luckily the figure has yet to notice your presence. As you continue forward, you end up closer and closer to the pile of emptied boxes. For some odd reason, they look familiar to you. Wasn't there food in these? At the very least, they were filled to the brim and at least the top layer was food...
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>>10725
"Hm, looks like our neglectful investigations of the crime scenes have come back to haunt us yet again...I really don't know what was wrong with me earlier today, a detective should have been much more thorough than this."

I'll try to get a closer look at the walls of the courtyard, to see what was in the boxes. As well as trying to identify the culprit, of course.
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>>10726
The walls look like they're lined with some sort of odd resin material. It's very darkly colored and appears very viscous.

The silhouette of the person moving about reveals itself more exactly as you get closer. That is, it appears to be that of a man, a very large man at that.

He looks back and notices you. His eyes, being much more adjusted to the light than yours, allow him to recognize you. "Ah, I see. So Dr. Ozaki failed to kill you all. I imagine you've solved the epitaph for me, at least?" This voice... it's the chef.
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>>10727
"Well, consider me surprised, Toshiro, I'd never have thought you would be behind it all.
And I thought I finally managed to have a friend, such a shame. Well either being a killer or dead doesn't really matter anyway doesn't it ?

Now, be wise and surrender quietly, you're no match for both us and this nifty rifle."
>> No. 10730 edit
>>10728
ref etc
>>10684
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Gohda pulls out a zippo and lights it. He then holds it above the black goo.

"I'm sure I don't need to explain what will happen. You must have seen the forest. Not even water can put out Greek fire. Perhaps you should just stand down."
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>>10732
"...There's no reason for us to stand down if we're going to die anyway. In that case, can I infer that you're willing to make some kind of offer?"
>> No. 10734 edit
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>>10733
"Drop the gun."
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>>10732
Greek Fire ? Toshiro, you old fool, you lost your mind, nobody knows how greek fire was made since the 14th century, you're breaking down. Erika, don't drop the gun.
You're in no position to make demands, and some fire isn't gonna stop anyone.

I quickly observe the black goo and try to determine how much is there and how quickly it would spread. I also try to see how the mansion's fire situation has evolved.

"We have no intention of killing you, but I guess what you want is for us to let you free ?
I... don't care about this as long as I get out of here alive and safe. Though I refuse to let you free so easily. Tell us everything and we'll let you go."
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>>10735
It is a lot of goo. You do not know how powerful any amount is, but it Appears to be more than enough to burn down the mansion as is.

The mansion itself is slowly starting to burn in the outer areas.

"My back's against a wall. Even if I survive I'm going to face trial if I lose here."
>> No. 10737 edit
>>10736
"No hard feelings Squitchy-boy"

I pull the trigger once reaching my destination. I continue to fire after the first shot.
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>>10737
A loud bang rings out. Again and again. The rain and the darkness causes the bullets to have issue hitting their mark.

One of the shots hits the brick wall and ricochets. It hits Gohda in the arm, causing him to drop his lighter. The pitch is ignited and the fire immediately bursts forth, surrounding you on all sides.

"Well, shit. Looks like I have no other choice."
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>>10737
"YOU PIECE OF SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT ! AND TO THINK I WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO SAVE YOU. FUCK THIS... I should have killed everyone when the first murder happened.
Yeah, I should have done that... Nothing bad could have happened this way, and I wouldn't be stuck here facing death.

But no, my dear Tomitake or whoever the hell you actually are, I won't simply let things happen and die having done nothing. I will fucking smash your face in and let you know the pain of a thousand death as I should have done before. And I'll make you remember for all eternity and afterlife, or in your next life or whatever bullshit men believe in that no one, ever, EVER calls me Squitchyboy, and stays unpunished !"

I run towards Ozaki with all my might and try to punch him directly in the face and try to get hold of his weapon, if he does shoot me but not instantly lethaly, I'll try to bear the pain as much as humanly possible and still cave his face in.
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>>10739
"You idiot, I could have just shot him if we wanted to kill him! Well, whatever, doesn't seem like we're going to be getting out of this anyhow. ...Gohda-san, before we all die, could you just tell us why? I feel like I already have confirmation from a higher plane on how you did everything, but I'd still like to know the motive before this ends."
>> No. 10741 edit
Seeing squitcher run about the courtyard from above I pity him.
I aim ny once again from the window. And shoot squitcher and rika.
I then escape before the fire spreads.
>> No. 10742 edit
Wait you were above us ? Didn't caught that.
>> No. 10743 edit
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>>10741
Your shots fail to hit again. You're too far away to aim well, especially with the wind, rain, and fire (the darkness kinda went away due to the fire)

>>10740
"Restaurants. Global economics these past few decades. Unemployment. Surely you understand, then?"

Gohda pauses before continuing: "My revenge was to the suffering of a man who as just as involved in the food services industry as I was. His wife dead, his son dead. Given some time to truly feel the pain, and then now he too is dead. And I will take from the Ushiromiya family all that is owed to me, it's fortune!"

Gohda makes a break through a first story window into a guest room.
>> No. 10744 edit
>>10743
I use magic to make everyone forget I did such a stupid thing as trying to punch someone in the air.
Then I inspect the courtyard. Is there any exits clear except from the window Gohda just used ? Is the fire too strong to try to just run through it ?

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>>10744
The fire is raging, but you could probably escape through any of the guest room windows as long as you act quickly.

There is also the door you came in through. Gohda must have intentionally not blocked off this door, as this would have been his method of escape after lighting the fire.
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>>10745
"Well then."

I make a run for the door we came in through.
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>>10745
"I don't care about Gohda in the slightest. Do whatever you want Erika, I'm going my way. However I'm taking this."

I take the rifle from her hands

"See you later"

I use the door we previously used to get here and try to find a way to go upstairs.
>> No. 10748 edit
>>10746
>> No. 10749 edit
>>10746
Well since ninja and all, could we make it as if I did talk before ? Just say whether or not you decide to let me take the rifle. if that's ok for Rudolf, of course
>> No. 10750 edit
>>10749
Eh, you can have the rifle, I don't mind. Not sure why you gave it to me in the first place really.
>> No. 10751 edit
As long as Rika has no objections, the rifle is yours. There are 2 staircases, the main staircase and the stairs near the kitchen. The stairs near the entrance hall is much nearer to you.
>> No. 10752 edit
>>10751
I'll take the nearest staircase and do an inspection of the whole 2nd floor hallways.
>> No. 10753 edit
>>10752
Aside from the smoke, nothing. Ozaki isn't here.
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>>10753
"Where did Jiro even get that gun, anyway?

Still, I'm worried about what happened to Eccaia-chan...Maybe we should head back to the entrance. ......Although I'm already pretty sure of what we'll find."
>> No. 10755 edit
>>10752
I try to find a way to the third floor and Kinzo's study, if possible, I open it with my key
>> No. 10756 edit
>>10755
You find your way to the study. Once you enter you get a good whiff of the freshly charred bodies and even more gruesome sight than before due to the second bomb. The fire seems to have started to spread into this room.

Ozaki is no where inside.
>> No. 10757 edit
>>10756
"Hmmpf. No use, it's best to back out now. "

I exit the room and head to the first floor, and I try to find an access out of the mansion
>> No. 10758 edit
>>10757
Assuming you were with Rika, the both of you make your way back to the main entrance as the building starts to creak.

You make it out of the mansion to the spot where you left Eccaia. You cannot see anyone besides yourselves here.
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http://www.livestream.com/ozakiskitchenclinic

We can finish the game during the stream assuming Rudolf shows up.
>> No. 10761 edit
>>10757
Ozaki and Gohda escaped.

Checkmate or stalemate, you can make one more move before the end. Where can you go to avoid death from this fire?
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>>10761
"Well, let's run away, no more time to waste hanging around here. The dock seems like the best choice"

We run towards the dock
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>>10762
You hurriedly make your way through the forest towards the docks. It makes sense, the beach is sand, the fire will not be able to spread to the docks. You rush, as time is of the essence. Along the forest path, tree and branches appear to be falling all around you. It almost feels like the world itself is coming undone.

You come to the clearing the find the beach. No fire: good. You rush onto the docks and sit down. Success.

Unaware of the time, you are surprised to see the rain begin to fade. The sun begins to rise. It's already morning. The boat will arrive in an hour or two. Sometimes it's darkest just before dawn.

End Result: Tie. Ozaki and the culprit escape capture, the detectives elude death (aside from the vegetable).

Good game, all. I will arrange a rematch in the future.
>> No. 10774 edit
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10774
W-what the hell?! The title of this work clearly states a relation to me, the golden witch! Why didn't I get to show up at all?!?!
>> No. 10776 edit
>>10774
Wasn't your showmanship I guess~
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>>10774
One thing I am still wondering about this game, though; I forgot to ask in the stream, but what was the final solution to that closed room in the kitchen? Did Ozaki actually sneak past everyone around the main entrance, or what?
>> No. 10782 edit
>>10779
Ah, right, I forgot to ask that too.
>> No. 10784 edit
>>10779
You may think it's a bit cheap but...
I was in one of the boxes, underneath the all food that was packed to the brim which Squitcher saw. Think of it like a false bottom. I then waited until you all left the room.
>> No. 10786 edit
Might as well call it Showmanship of the Sorcerer of Steel
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>>10784
Huh? Wait, wouldn't that count as a 'hidden area'?
>> No. 10798 edit
You searched the box. It counts as an area you already discovered/investigated but did not find me in, as the food does not create a second place to hide but merely stops you from seeing me.
>> No. 10799 edit
>>10791
Since when is the inside of a box hidden? Hiding under an object or set of objects is different from a hidden area.

Being under a blanket on a bed means you're hidden, but nobody would say the area under the blanket is a hidden area.

Although if he said nobody was "hiding" that'd be an issue, I forget.
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>>10798
Oh, right. I got misled by the "false bottom" part, I think.

If I was going to nitpick, though...I'd still say there's an issue with "The only area you didn't investigate that a human could have hidden in was the oven or cabinets". Shouldn't the bottom of the box count as an area that we didn't investigate? I guess it depends on the definition of an area.
>> No. 10803 edit
>>10800
Yeah, the box as a whole counted as one area and the food was just obstructing Squitcher's view. That why I conceded once you said the cooler, because it was clear that you were thinking like that.
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