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The download link (of the Roulette Game) is below:
http://www.mediafire.com/?o0u3b4tff6ork67

First Topic here:
http://www.seacats.net/gameboard/res/2915.html

Now, we continue our thread with a new game made by me. The game starts on next post.
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>> No. 3155 edit
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At 6:00 PM on October 4th, Ushiromiya Maria received a letter from the Golden Witch, Beatrice.

The witch was immediately escorted to the VIP room upon arrival. At dinner, the adults discussed who this 19th-person Beatrice could have been. They were simply outraged at the witch's letter. When the knocked on Kinzo's door asking for answers, he told them to go away, and they left unsatisfied.

Thus ends the first day, Octover 4th, 1986

The next morning, six people had gone missing, and there was a huge uproar.

First Twilight:
Gohda: pale skin, found in the Storehouse
George: torso slice in half, found in the Storehouse
Jessica: burnt, found in the Storehouse
Kyrie: head half-smashed, found in the Storehouse
Genji: hole in chest, found in the Storehouse
Eva: decapitated, found in the Storehouse


The Storehouse's key was found inside the storehouse. When they discover the crime scene, the Storehouse's door was locked.
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>>3155
Then how their bodies was discovered?

Maybe a Master Key could open the Storehouse's door.
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>>3159
There is a key's copy, but the only one who possesses it is an innocent person.

And, about your blue: The only key that can lock and unlock the storehouse is Storehouse's Key.
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Then repeat for me:
Their all dead. No fake bodies, no fake deads, no "personalities" deads trick.
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>>3162
Toshiro Gohda is dead
Ushiromiya George is dead
Ushiromiya Jessica is dead
Ushiromiya Kyrie is dead
Ronoue Genji is dead
Ushiromiya Eva is dead
.

Those bodies are real. None of them had many different personalities and they are really dead.
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>>3163
Repeat in red.

No accomplices or the culprit touched or used the Storehouse's keys (original and copy) before the First Twilight.
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The headless body does not belong to Ushiromiya Eva, who actually killed all of them through some cunning method. Her body's left there to confuse people into thinking she died. She later died due to accident or occurence X.
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>>3165
Her being 'the', of course, which is a real body but not Eva's body. If you'd like to form a response, I'd be pleased with knowing no one else died but the six mentioned, and the bodies are not only real but also belong to the person they are believed to belong to.
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>>3165
It remembers me "The Secret Garden", from G.K. Chesterton...
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>>3164
The only thing I can repeat is: Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Culprit and/or Accomplice before First Twilight. I have magical powers... Why me and my furnitures should use some stupid key?

>>3165
The headless body belongs to Eva. Actually, Eva's head was found inside the Storehouse.
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>>3168
Wunderbar. Prior to the murders, the storehouse door was not locked! In fact, the storehouse door was not locked at any point in time, though it may have been believed to have been locked! Thus, this is not a locked room murder at all.
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>>3168
Then, you could repeat that too:

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Culprit and/or Accomplice after First Twilight.

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Culprit and/or Accomplice in exact moment of victim's deaths.
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>>3169
When all six people got in the Storehouse, the door was locked.

>>3170
Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Culprit and/or Accomplice after First Twilight.

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Culprit and/or Accomplice in exact moment of victim's deaths.
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As I thought. Then, please repeat:

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Innocent after First Twilight.

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Innocent before First Twilight.

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Innocent in exact moment of victim's deaths.

The six people gathered on Storehouse were dead before they were enter.
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>>3173
The innocent person that possesses Storehouse's key copy used it for open Storehouse's door when they discovered the crime scene.

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Innocent before First Twilight..

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Innocent in exact moment of victim's deaths.


The six people were killed inside Storehouse.
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>>3174
Before the First Twilight, the Storehouse's door was opened. So the culprit or an accomplished could kill them all and just close the door without locked it. However, an innocent with the Storehouse's copy key could lock the door after the First Twilight, without open it and discover corpses.
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>>3175
Only the victims got in the storehouse when they were locked and killed. They were killed by someone outside the storehouse.

And, for my pleasure: The victims got in the Storehouse with the original key.

In short: Me and my magic did this crime. Isn't it beatiful?
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>>3176
My lady, there is nothing like "beauty" in death of innocents.

As you say, they get killed while the Storehouse's Door is closed and lock. Correct?
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>>3177
Yes, correct. A closed room wouldn't be a closed room if the door is not closed and locked.
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>>3178
Since this moment, the door has not opened, unlocked or picked, I'm correct again?

And traps didn't killed the six people on the First Twilight.
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>>3180
The Storehouse's door was only opened again, before First Twilight, when everyone discovered the crime scene.

Also, you are correct: No traps and no medicine (drugs, poison, etc) killed anyone.
>> No. 3182 edit
>>3181
The Storehouse's door was only opened again, after First Twilight, when everyone discovered the crime scene.**
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>>3182
In exact moment of the First Twilight, the six people were unconscious.

In exact moment of the First Twilight, there were more than six people in the Storehouse.

There's no windows or secret passages.

Van Dine e Knox does not applies in this game.

>> No. 3184 edit
>>3183
Van Dine AND Knox
>> No. 3186 edit
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>>3183
In exact moment of the First Twilight, the six people were conscious.

In exact moment of the First Twilight, there were only six people in the Storehouse.

There is no secret passage, but there is a veeeeeeery little window in Storehouse.
The storehouse's window can only be closed by inside.
No one inside of the storehouse locked the window.
The culprit or accomplice didn't use any method to unlock the window. Except magic, because I'm a sorcerer.
When they found the crime scene, the window was locked.

And about Knox and Van Dine, I'm not gonna say anything. You have to discover by yourself!
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>>3186
Then repeat: The window never was opened since the start of the game, before and after the First Twilight.
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>>3187
The window was never opened since the start of the game, before and after the First Twilight.

I am ready for listen your theory, if you prepared one. Try to kill this Ilusion!
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>>3188

But, if you want a theory:

They killed each other, manipulated by the culprit or an accomplice.

The Storehouse's Door was locked from inside, by the original key.

The culprit did not killing the six people "in person", he just manipulated the events, so they could kill each other easily.

The culprit and any accomplices did not killing anyone "in person" since the very start of this game.

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>>3190
The six people didn't kill each other. They were killed by somone else, in this case, me.
The Storehouse was locked from outside.
The Culprit/Accomplice killed everyone "in person".
>> No. 3192 edit
>>3191
So...

The Culprit/Accomplice killed everyone "in person" from outside of Storehouse. Near Storehouse, to be exactly.

The Culprit/Accomplice didn't locked the Storehouse. When he comes, it already locked.

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>>3192
Your first blue is correct. Isn't wonderful what magic can do? About your second one: WRONG! The Culprit/Accomplice locked the door!

Now you ask me: "How?"
I say: "Magi, duuuh!"
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>>3193
Assuming your Red Truths, the Culprit/Accomplice don't used any key to lock the door, and even so, he locked.

I suppose this is correct too?
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>>3194
As I said:
The only key that can lock and unlock the storehouse is Storehouse's Key.
The Storehouse's key was found inside the storehouse and wasn't used to lock the door.
There is a key's copy, but the only one who possesses it is an innocent person. Also, the innocent person wasn't stolen and she/he did not give the key to the culprit/accomplice by any method.

What do you think? Surprise me with a theory!
>> No. 3196 edit
>>3195
With this Red: The only key that can lock and unlock the storehouse is Storehouse's Key.

Are you assuming the Storehouse's Key found inside the Storehouse is the only key who that can open lock and unlock the door?
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>>3196
The Storehouse's Key copy can lock and unlock the door too.

Can't you find a theory to blow in my face, Piorot-san? I think you gonna sleep forever and ever in this closed room!
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Repeat: The Storehouse's Key copy didn't lock and unlock the door until the very start of this game, before and after the First Twilight.
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>>3198
The Storehouse's Key copy didn't lock and unlock the door until the very start of this game, before the First Twilight.

You know very well that the Storehouse's key copy was used after First Twilight, to unlock Storehouse's door when everyone discovered the crime scene.
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>>3199
>>3154
The Storehouse's key copy was used ONLY after First Twilight, to unlock Storehouse's door when everyone discovered the crime scene.

Could you repeat that?
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>>3200
The Storehouse's key copy was used ONLY after First Twilight, to unlock Storehouse's door when everyone discovered the crime scene. Happy, now, Poirot-san?
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The only key that can lock and unlock the storehouse is Storehouse's Key.

The Storehouse's Key copy didn't lock and unlock the door until the very start of this game, before the First Twilight.

The Storehouse's key copy was used ONLY after First Twilight, to unlock Storehouse's door when everyone discovered the crime scene.

Then, a key doesn't used for lock the Storehouse's door.

Could describe the door? It's a normal door?
>> No. 3203 edit
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>>3202
Like VN and anime, this is the Storehouse's door in my Rokkenjima.

Now, about your blue: Show me your theory, Poirot-san. If that two keys wasn't used to lock the door, what was used? Also, remember: Storehouse's key is the only thing that can lock and unlock Storehouse's door.
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>>3203
[Also, remember: Storehouse's key is the only thing that can lock and unlock Storehouse's door.]

That's not what you said. Your red says: The only key that can lock and unlock the storehouse is Storehouse's Key.

But in my cases, so many things were used to lock doors.

So, a accomplice/culprit could use Thieves' Tools or using even "duct tape", "sealing" the door like Eva's trick in EP1. It could be used some kind of obstacle, like boxes or the door could be damage somewhere to a "forced lock".

Thus, a accomplice or a culprit didn't use keys to lock the Guesthouse's door, but any device or stratagem.

>> No. 3205 edit
>>3204
Thus, a accomplice or a culprit didn't use keys to lock the STOREhouse's door, but any device or stratagem.
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>>3204
Good, good! However, I said that 'Storehouse's key is the only key that can lock and unlock the door' for avoid Master Key's theory.

Now I can say the beatiful truth:

Both Storehouse's Key (original and copy) are the only thing that can lock and unlock Storehouse's door!!

How do you feel about that? *ahaha.wav*
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>>3207

Innocent didn't used the key as follows.

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Innocent before First Twilight..

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Innocent in exact moment of victim's deaths.

There is a key's copy, but the only one who possesses it is an innocent person.

The innocent person that possesses Storehouse's key copy used it for open Storehouse's door when they discovered the crime scene.

There is a key's copy, but the only one who possesses it is an innocent person. Also, the innocent person wasn't stolen and she/he did not give the key to the culprit/accomplice by any method.


Culprit and Accomplice touched, but didn't used the key... EXCEPT before the First Twilight. As follows:

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Culprit and/or Accomplice after First Twilight.

Both Storehouse's key (original and copy) weren't used by any Culprit and/or Accomplice in exact moment of victim's deaths.


So, the innocent person isn't the key's owner. The Key's Owner is the culprit or a accomplice. Then, after the crime, the innocent possess the key. The Innocent hadn't stolen or gave the key, he just received.

Can you deny it?
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The storehouse door was removed while it was locked and then put back on, so therefore people could enter even while the storehouse door was locked, and then after it was put back on it was still locked.
>> No. 3210 edit
>>3208
The Innocent hadn't stolen, wasn't stoled or gave the key, he just received it.
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>>3208
Your 1st and 2nd blues are correct! And I understand that the 4th red is an exception in your blue theory.

Your 3rd blue is more than wrong. The real owner of Storehouse's key copy isn't the culprit and/or the accomplice!
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>>3209
The storehouse's door wasn't removed.
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>>3212
I preferred to find the culprit without deny you, but...

Your red:

Both Storehouse's Key (original and copy) are the only thing that can lock and unlock Storehouse's door!!

Accordingly, magic it is not a thing that can lock and unlock Storehouse's door, so you can not commite this crime!
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>>3213
.................................................................................................................... Fine! You just destroyed my "Storehouse door mystery"!

But... Well... Can you destroy the others mysteries involving this closed room?
- Gohda's pale skin
- Jessica's burnt body
- Eva's decapitated body
- Storehouse window's mystery

Try to solve it, dear Poirot-san!
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>>3214
For a corpse, nothing more natural than being pale skinned. That explains the pale skin of Gohda-san.

To Jessica, I need to know about her clothes. Her clothes were burntoo?

Eva could be decapitated by some large and keen edged weapon.


And the what kind of mystery has the Storehouse's window could get?

It's closed by inside, didn't it?
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>>3215
Your first blue hits.
Jessica's entire body is burnt, including clothes.
Eva wasn't decapitated by an edge weapon.

Here, read >>3186
It'll explain the Window's mystery.
>> No. 3219 edit
>>3217
The windows was locked before the people gathered on the storehouse's door.

Eva is literally decapitated.

Jessica is literally burnt.

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>>3219
The window was locked before all people die.
Eva is literally decapitated.

Jessica is literally burnt. (Like Kinzo at all EPs)
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The window was locked at the start of the game, and it was never unlocked, it was locked before everyone gathered inside as Poirot said.

Jessica was brunt in the boiler.

Jessica's body was set on fire.

Eva was decapitated with wire, due to the intense speed the wire pulling on her neck, it cleaved it off.

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>>3229
As I said earlier, the window was locked before the six people died.

Jessica wasn't burnt in the boiler room. Jessica was burnt in the Storehouse. Also, you're correct about Jessica's body was set on fire.

Eva wasn't decapitated with a wire.
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>>3220
>>3230
The window was locked AFTER all people die.***
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>>3230
Eva was decapitated by a foot. Someone stomped on her neck until her head broke off.

>The culprit or accomplice didn't use any method to unlock the window

Someone else unlocked the window, one of the victims probably. Then the culprit or accomplice locked the window.

Also was Eva's decapitation a clean cut, or was it more messy.
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>>3232
Eva wasn't decapitated by a foot. The decapitation was very messy.

About locking the window:
Yes, one of the victims unlocked the window, however the culprit or accomplice didn't use any method to lock the window.
>> No. 3234 edit
>>3233
>The storehouse's window can only be closed by inside.
>No one inside of the storehouse locked the window.
>The culprit or accomplice didn't use any method to unlock the window
>the culprit or accomplice didn't use any method to lock the window.

Clarify something for me.

The culprit did not lock the window by any means.
Nothing the culprit did caused the window to get locked.

An accomplice did not lock the window.

Nothing an accomplice did caused the window to get locked.

Nothing any of the victims did caused the window to be locked.

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>>3234
The culprit did not lock the window by any means.
Nothing the culprit did caused the window to get locked.
An accomplice did not lock the window.

I refuse to repeat your two last blues.
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Ok good, now your definition on what an 'edged weapon' is.
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>>3236
I asked to Poirot-san what is an "edge weapon" and he said that a edge weapon is weapon with blade (razor, knife, sword, etc).
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>>3237
So would an axe fit in your version of that definition?
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>>3238
Yes.
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>>3239
Her head was beaten off her neck by a blunt weapon.

The accomplice set it up so that after Jessica burned for a while the window locked, using string/wire/rope/etc.
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>>3240
>The accomplice set it up

You mean, a trap? If is that what I am think, I say: None of the six people weren't kill by a trap.
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>>3241
Not sure if I would call it a trap. Just a method to lock the window. Doesn't harm anyone, since they are already dead before it is set up.

A timed device which made it so the window locked after X period of time.
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>>3242
A time device wasn't used to lock the window.
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>>3243
An animal bit Eva's head off.
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>>3244
An animal didn't do it.
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>>3245
Eva's head was ripped off by a hook.

Eva's head was ripped off by use of a large vacuum.

Eva's head was blown off by a bomb.

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>>3246
None of this things decapitated Eva.

Also, about your blunt weapon blue: Eva's head wasn't beaten off her neck by a blunt weapon.
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>>3247
I'll need only one last Blue.

An Innocent could be a Killer, without be a accomplice or the culprit.
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>>3278
Your blue hits. Where did you get this blue? From Gaap's dimensional hole?
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I just needed a caffeine dose to start.

So, the Innocent who possess the key copy of Storehouse's Door killed the six people.

The Innocent was manipulated by the culprit or an accomplice.

The real culprit is alive.

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>>3280
The innocent who possesses the Storehouse's key copy didn't kill any of those 6 people.
The innocent wasn't manipulated by culprit and or accomplice.

The culprit is still alive.
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>>3281
A Culprit/An Accomplice cannot be an Innocent at differents times in this gameboard.

The Culprit is always the Culprit, don't matter points of view.

The Accomplices are always the Accomplices, don't matter points of view.

The Innocents are always the Innocents, don't matter points of view.

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>>3282
A Culprit/An Accomplice cannot be an Innocent at differents times in this gameboard.
The Culprit is always the Culprit, don't matter points of view.
The Accomplices are always the Accomplices, don't matter points of view.

I refuse to repeat your last blue.
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An Innocent can be any another thing when he kills someone, except the Culprit or Accomplice!
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>>3284
An Innocent can be any another thing when he kills someone, except The Culprit or Accomplice.
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You refused to repeat that blue truth because you assume "Innocents" who kill aren't Innocents anymore.
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>>3286
The Innocents are always the Innocents, don't matter points of view.
An Innocent can be any another thing when he kills someone, except The Culprit or Accomplice.

Those two sentences doesn't have any contradictions. If I repeat in red your blue, a contradiction is going to exist and this gameboard will crash.
>> No. 3288 edit
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>>3287
Exactly, EVA-san.

So, the Innocent can change his innocent status and Culprit & Accomplice cannot. The Innocent cannot be a Culprit or a Accomplice, no matter what. So, there's one more category, who you're hiding for us.
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>>3288
And I thought that no one was going to discover this. But this does not destroy my 1st Twilight's Ilusion.
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>>3289
My lady, you still don't understand. I'm not a "destroyer of illusions". And I don't have an "Imagine Breaker" power.

Even I, Hercule Poirot, could believe in magic or witches, as a Roman Catholic.

But, beliefs apart, I'm a Detective. My work is not deny you, but catch a Culprit and bring him to the authorities.

And I will make all my efforts to do it, Eva-san!

So, repeat! A non-Innocent, non-accomplice and non-culprit can help the Culprit in his goals. Even him doesn't know that![/b]
>> No. 3291 edit
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The culprit was let in by the victims. One of victims then locked the entrance he entered. The culprit killed them and then hid in the storehouse .
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>>3290
A non-Innocent, non-accomplice and non-culprit can help the Culprit in his goals, even if him doesn't know that.

Well, you can make how many question you want: You'll never find The Culprit if we get in First Twilight forever.
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>>3292
I agree with you. But there is another people who wants destroy your illusion. So, I need to sit and wait, trying get all informations I can.

A Culprit and an Accomplice can "help" an Innocent to turn himself a non-Innocent.

Without this help, an Innocent cannot turn himself a non-Innocent.

>> No. 3294 edit
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>>3291
The six victims got in the Storehouse and then the door was closed and locked by outside.
All six people were murdered by outside.

>>3293
Your two blues hit. Have you ever think in work on SSVD or Eiserne Jungfrau? You are pretty excelent. +20 for you.
>> No. 3295 edit
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I'm sure you are a excellent game master.

So... A non-innocent, non-accomplice and non-culprit is a Manipulated person.

The Six People on the First Twilight didn't died at same time.

The Six People on the First Twilight didn't came on the Storehouse at same time.

There is a gap time between each death on the First Twilight.

The Culprit killed the six people "in person", out from Storehouse, without accomplices' help.

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>>3295
A non-innocent, non-accomplice and non-culprit isn't a Manipulated person.
The Six People on the First Twilight get in the Storehouse at same time.

Your 2nd and 4th blues hit.
I refuse to repeat your last blue.
>> No. 3297 edit
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>>3296
Some of the six people didn't saw each other die when alive.

Some of the six people didn't aware about their number (six) or didn't know who was with them exactly.

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The window has a autolock.

In other words it's the type of window that I thought was in Kinjo's DR game, where the window will lock itself if you let go of it due to gravity.
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>>3297
All six people kneew who was with them and all of them kneew how many people were.

Tell more about your first blue.

>>3298
The window hasn't an autolock.
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>>3299
Repeat it: "An accomplice cannot kill."
"No accidents are involved in this murder."

The window was removed.
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>>3301
I refuse to repeat your first sentence.
No accidents are involved in this murder. Also, the window wasn't removed and, before you say something, there is only one window in Storehouse.
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>>3302
The accomplice was not one of the victims.
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>>3303
................. The accomplice was one of the six victims.
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Good move, Ozaki-san! Let me try help you.

The culprit killed people using an accomplice inside the Storehouse.

You assume that the culprit can kill people through an accomplice. So he can be present, without causing wounds actively, killing by his own actions.

A death caused by an accomplice is considered a death caused by the culprit.

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>>3305
The accomplice inside Storehouse didn't kill anyone. Also, a death caused by an accomplice isn't considered a death caused by the culprit.

About your second blue, tell me more about it. Because some people might not get your blue. So, it's better if you tell for everyone more about it.
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>>3306
Let us consider hypothetically Jessica-san as an accomplice.

If she attacks someone or influences on the orders of the culprit, it would be a death whose culprit would be directly responsible, even without moving a single muscle. That's the basis of the second blue truth.
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>>3307
Even if the culprit is manipulating the accomplice, a death caused by the accomplice is a death caused by the accomplice. The accomplice will carry the sin of murder other person by his own, without share this burden with the culprit. Do you get it, Poirot-san?
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>>3308
I get it.

So, a manipulated Innocent could not turn himself an accomplice, but when he kills, he's not a Innocent anymore, as you said before, right?
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>>3306
There seems to be some sort of wordplay in this mystery.
The accomplice locked the window after becoming a victim.
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>>3309
Your blue hits.

>>3310
Let me help you and repeat a red: No one inside of the storehouse locked the window.
>> No. 3312 edit
>>3311
And as you said in red:

A non-innocent, non-accomplice and non-culprit isn't a Manipulated person.

So, No Innocents are manipulated to commit murder in this gameboard.

All murders can only be committed by the culprit or an accomplice on this gameboard.

The fourth category (non-innocent, non-accomplice and non-culprit) isn't Victim Category.

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>>3312
No Innocents are manipulated to commit murder in this gameboard.
All murders doesn't need to be only committed by the culprit or an accomplice on this gameboard.
The fourth category (non-innocent, non-accomplice and non-culprit) is a Victim Category.
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>>3313
There's no Fifth Category.

An innocent who kills someone is a Victim!

An innocent who get killed by someone is a Victim!

An accomplice who get killed is a Victim too!

What defines a Victim is her dead status.

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>>3314
There is no 5th Category. Also, an innocent who kills someone is a Victim.

Now, I'll explain how my "sections" works:

1st Section: Culprit/Accomplice
Culprit
Accomplice

2nd Section: Victim
Innocent
4th Category
>> No. 3316 edit
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>>3315
An innocent who kills someone is a person who get tired from all murders and kills without think.

We can call this Victim as a Mad

>> No. 3317 edit
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>>3311
Hopefully I didn't miss any red.
>The storehouse's window can only be closed by inside.
Repeat: "The storehouse's window can only be locked from the inside"

The culprit didn't leave the storehouse until after the bodies were discovered by the survivors.
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>>3316
An innocent who kills is someone that can kill with logical reason.
This victim isn't Mad.

>>3317
As you wish, Ozaki: The storehouse's window can only be locked from the inside.
The culprit wasn't inside the Storehouse. Only six people were inside the Storehouse: Gohda, George, Jessica, Kyrie, Genji and Eva.
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An innocent who kills someone is a person who kill to protect others.

Like a Hero.


Eva Hero
>> No. 3320 edit
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>>3319
Your blue hits.
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>>3320
Thanks, Eva-san.

The accomplice did not know he would be killed.

The accomplice has brought five other people to the Storehouse.

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>>3321
Your first blue hits.
The accomplice has brought five other people to the Storehouse.
>> No. 3323 edit
>>3322
The accomplice has brought six other people to the Storehouse.
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>>3323
The accomplice has brought six other people to the Storehouse.

Then, I guess the culprit was already waiting for them.

You said there was an accomplice among the six people. If another accomplice brought six people, then had eight people in total. The six people, the culprit and another accomplice outside.

Right, Eva-san?
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>>3324
There was only seven people.
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>>3325
The accomplice has brought six other people to the Storehouse.

There was only seven people.

In that case, the accomplice inside the group brought the culprit with them. Then, there was only seven people.
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>>3326
The culprit wasn't with them, the seven people.
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>>3327
Say it in red: "Seven people get attacked, but only one survived!"
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>>3328
I refuse!!
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>>3329
Repeat: "Not only six, but seven people died!"
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>>3330
Only six people died.
>> No. 3332 edit
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Repeat: An accomplice killed the six people, not the Culprit!
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>>3332
Your blue hits, finaly. An accomplice killed the six people.
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>>3333
Whereas Eva-san is not an accomplice and it's not included in six people, I guess you are not, therefore, the author of the First Twilight.[/b]
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>>3334
Ahahaha! Really? Then, explain to me:
- Window's mystery

I might not killed those persons and locked the door, but my magic locked that window! Try to prove me that I'm wrong, Poirot-san!
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>>3335
Maybe I'm wrong, but why would a witch worry, in the middle of a murder, on open and close a window?

Are you saying you, the Great Witch EVA-san, just passed to Storehouse to open and close a simple window?
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After the accomplice attacked the victims one survived and killed the accomplice. The innocent person then hid so they wouldn't get blamed for the murders.
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>>3336
This is the rules, Poirot-san: Prove to me that everything can be made without magic. If you cannot, then I win. The Window's Mystery is the last one holding everyone in this Twilight.

>>3338
None of the six people survived. None of the five people knew that the 6th person was an accomplice.
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>>3339
Why does this matter?
There was seven people after all.
The seventh survived.
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>>3339
Magical rules, huh? Fine, fine... let me try something.

In exact moment of death of the six people, the windows was closed.
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>>3340
The 7th person did not get in the Storehouse. So, yes, the 7th person survived.

Poirot-san already discovered that an accomplice murdered the six people. So, the only mystery left is Window's Mystery.
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>>3341
The window was locked after all people die.

Now, for help you all, I'll get all reds I said about The Window's Mystery:

The storehouse's window can only be closed by inside.
No one inside of the storehouse locked the window.
The culprit or accomplice didn't use any method to unlock the window.
When everyone found the crime scene, the window was locked.
The window was never opened since the start of the game, before and after the First Twilight.
The culprit did not lock the window by any means.
Nothing the culprit did caused the window to get locked.
An accomplice did not lock the window.
A time device wasn't used to lock the window.


That's all, I guess.
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>>3343
Fine... Eva-san, could you repeat this blue for me?

The storehouse's window can only be LOCKED by inside.

It's different from closed...

So, my theory:

The window didn't open, just lock and unlock, and it can be made by outside the Storehouse. So, the window could be always closed.
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>>3344
As you wish: The storehouse's window can only be LOCKED by inside. Say "goodbye" to your theory, Poirot-san~
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>>3345
The window was never UNLOCKED since the start of the game, before and after the First Twilight.

It's a fake blue, of course. But you know that. Say to me when that windows as unlocked and locked again.

Plus: who found the corpse from the First Twilight?
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Ah, I was just enjoying a nice walk and some familiar people managed to get killed..? Again? Tsch, if they couldn't get their act together even in a fragment like this they were just interesting props for a diversion. And what's this..?

Oh - I'd never expected to meet - are you... Hercule Poirot? Eeeeeee! I mean - the affair of the ABC Murders grabbed my attention. Indeed, it seems like an interesting group has assembled here. 'Witch' EVA! I, Erika Furudo, would like the pleasure of participating.

Don't worry- I'm just an observer for now. It's not like the person who locked the window expected to die that night... Right, EVA..?
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>>3361
Oh, are you the Detective Furudo Erika? Your feats on the answer arcs are remarkable.

My name is Hercule Poirot, as you know. Pleased to meet you, Mademouselle.
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>>3361
I'm sorry, Furudo, but no one inside of the storehouse locked the window. If you have some doubts, read >>3343 again.

>>3346
The window was unlocked after the six people get in the Storehouse. The window was locked after all six people were killed.

Kanon-kun was the first person to find the six bodies. ('Cause he is rose's gardener) After this, he warned Natsuhi and Krauss about it and then everyone else was knowing.
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So we can assume:

Kanon-kun is an innocent because he had in possession of the key copy of the Storehouse's Door.

And as you said in red, the copy key's owner is an innocent who did not transfer ownership of your key to anyone and no one stoled the key's owner.

Another blue: When Kanon-kun found the crime scene, the window was locked. Could you repeat it?
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Alright after some thinking about the window mystery, I have a few (probably wrong) ideas.

The window can only be locked by means of a human or by magic.

I believe you should have no trouble repeating that, since it helps both our cases.
___________________________________________

Also I hate to be picky, but.

Accomplice - An accomplice is a person who actively participates in the commission of a crime, even though they take no part in the actual criminal offense.

So once an accomplice (someone who assists) takes an active role and commits a crime they wouldn't be considered an accomplice, but a culprit, by law standards.

The only way to avoid getting an culprit label would be as if they were forced, which by your categories I believe would make them a victim then.

Just wanted to point that out for future reference.

But for the sake of continuity I believe we should continue the game with your ruling.
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>>3453

---------

I think I can answer this.

According Eriko-san, no innocent is forced or manipulated in this game. An innocent only can kill the culprit or his accomplices, and then, he's not an Innocent anymore, but a Hero.

We're using his definitions as a Game Master.

So, it's important ask for him his definitions for his game, unlock all the doors and windows, discover all the mecanisms.

This is why my goal is always the culprit, not the illusion.
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>>3456
Yes, I understand that, and I'm perfectly fine with it.

My piece is not with a innocent/hero/victim/whatever, it is with the fact the accomplice.

And I'm perfectly fine with Eriko's verdict on it. I'm not complaining at all, or filing a protest. If it sounded like I was, I apologize, that was not my intention.

I meant to merely state the definition by the word and by law standard of an accomplice for future reference.

Also the later part spiraled out from me just being completely confused about that whole part. Which while I think I have a better grasp, some fog still remains. Though I thank you for explaining some of it to me Poirot.

Once again, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have made that post in the first place.
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>>3420
Correct, Kanon-kun is an innocent. And yes, I can repeat your 2nd blue: When Kanon-kun found the crime scene, the window was locked.

>>3453
I am really happy that you go back, Rosa-san. I thought you gave up to play my gameboard.

About your blue: I don't know if I can repeat. If I say "magic can close/open/lock/unlock the window" in red, I am afraid that could cause a Stalemate or something of the same level.
I'm so sorry, but I won't repeat it.
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>>3463
Nope, just been busy, and thinking things over.

Hmm... very well.

The last thing that touched the windows lock was not a human hand.
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>>3457
I understand that. I didn't mean to denigrate your comment. It was just an afterthought. Sorry if it seemed, it was not my intention.

>>3463
Welcome back, EVA-san. Could you repeat it in red?

Nor the accomplice who killed them, nor the six people made any effort to lock the window.

Nor the accomplice who killed them, nor the six people used their hands to lock the window.

Lock or unlock the window is unnecessary for the accomplice to do this murder.

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>>3464
Tsk... Gosh... I hate these reversal blue. The last thing that touched the windows lock was a human hand.

I'll answer Poirot-san later.
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>>3473
Hum.... Let me see........ I refuse to repeat.
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>>3481
So, one of the six victims locked the window, not the accomplice.

I was sure you said in red that six people didn't locked the window. But still not, so...
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>No one inside of the storehouse locked the window.

The 'no one' does not apply to the one person who locked the window. Since for reason X they don't apply to your list.[/bl

A corpse locked the window. They didn't apply to your list, since they aren't a 'person' anymore, they are a 'thing' now.
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>>3482
No one inside of the storehouse locked the window.

>>3483
Correct, Rosa-san! A corpse locked the window. Congratulations! What do you think about my mystery window resolution?

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Now that the 1st Twilight is complete, shall we continue my Roulette? Kihihihihi~

Second Twilight:
Nanjo: shot in chest, found in the Chapel
Maria: Stabbed in head, found in the Chapel

Demoniac stakes were found lying next to each corpse.

Terumasa Nanjo is dead
Ushiromiya Maria is dead
.
The Chapel's key was found inside the chapel.
Nanjo and Maria did not commit suicide.
They were killed inside the Chapel.
The Chapel was locked by outside and olny Chapel's key can open Chapel's door and there is no Chapel's key copy.
The window was not use anytime.

The one who locked Chapel was Rosa. She was afraid that Maria got killed. She also had the idea to lock Dr. Nanjo inside the Chapel, if some health problem happened to Maria.
Rosa and Rudolf were watching the Chapel all time.

And before everyone use a crazy theory that "Bice (Beatrice) from VIP room is culprit", I say:
When everyone discorevered 1st Twilight, they locked Bice into VIP room.
Bice never got out of VIP room.
Before 1st Twilight happened, the number of alive people in Rokkenjima was 19.
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>>3487
Alright, where was the chapel key found, and where were the bodies found, where they near a window, wall, door, table, pew, altar, anything?
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>>3488
Nanjo and Maria were inside the Chapel, near to each other. Nanjo was on corridor and Maria was below one of the "chairs".
The Chapel's Key was found inside Nanjo's pocket. When Rosa locked Chapel's door, she gave it to Nanjo through on of Chapel's window (in case The Culprit could get in the Chapel).
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>>3489
The chapel key slipped under/over/around a crack in the door/window/wall.
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>>3487
I guess it's time to start the Second Twilight. Finally, fresh air.

Time to the false and true negative theories mix roll.

Nanjo and Maria aren't innocents.

Nanjo and Maria didn't killed by the culprit.

Nanjo and Maria didn't killed by an accomplice.

Nanjo and Maria killed each other.

Rosa didn't get stoled or gave Chapel's Key to the culprit or to an accomplice.

Rosa isn't an accomplice.

Rudolf isn't an accomplice.

Kyrie isn't an accomplice.

Neither Rosa, Rudolf or Kyrie killed Nanjo and Maria, or helped an accomplice/culprit by any means.

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>>3491
The Chapel's Key was not use in this crime.

>>3493
You are right: Nanjo and Maria killed each other. About your other blues? I'll let them hit all my body. I will nothing about it! *cackle* *cackle* *cackle*

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Now that Poirot and his ability to be a Blue Machine-Gun resolved 2nd Twilight, shall we continue?

Third Twilight:
Feeling unsafe without a weapon, Battler went to Kinzo's gun collection and took one of the Wincherster rifles.

After some time had passed, an envelope sealed with wax was found.

Its contens read "Praise my name".

The survivors standing closest to the letter were Rosa, Kumasawa, Shannon, Natsuhi and Battler.

None of those people placed this letter on the table.

Current location: Dining room.
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>>3534
The letter was placed in the dinning room beforehand and the survivors only found it during that time. Thus placing that blame on the people closest to it.
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>>3534

Everyone underestimate the ability of a child to commit a murder. But is not that difficult.

Let's begin the Third Twilight.

None of those people are an accomplice.

None of those people are the culprit.


If you can't repeat that, let me try something more light:

They were surprised by the letter, no exceptions. None of them expected that letter.

The accomplices knows every step of the plan of the culprit.


Some questions: No one died in the Third Twilight? Where is Rudolf, Kinzo, Hideyoshi, Kanon, Krauss and "Bice"?
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>>3536
Correct, Ozaki. These Twilights are very easy. Just some are a little bit difficult.

>>3537
Rudolf, Kinzo, Hideyoshi, Kanon and Krauss were with them. Bice is still locked into VIP room.
And for my free will, I'll give you this red: The accomplices knows every step of the plan of the culprit.

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Ozaki won this Twilight. What is the next one?

Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Twilights:

Kumasawa: Shot in chest, found in the parlor
Krauss: stabbed in head, found in the cousin's room
Kinzo: burnt, found in the guesthouse looby

Seventh and Eighth Twilights:

Rudolf: hole in chest, found in the kitchen
Rosa: head half-smashed, found in Natsuhi's room

Demoniac stakes were found lying next to each corpse.

Kinzo was burnt alive.
None of those who were murder is the culprit
Chie Kumasawa is dead
Ushiromiya Krauss is dead
Ushiromiya Kinzo is dead
Ushiromiya Rudolf is dead
Ushiromiya Rosa is dead
.

4th-8th Twilight is a 1st Twilight-EP3 style: All rooms "linked".
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>>3543
In that case, I shall say:

Only one accomplice died.

The culprit still alive.

Kinzo wasn't alive until since of the Gameboard.

No "Heros" killed anyone in the Gameboard until now.

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One of the master keys was used.

Also how exactly are they "linked" anyway?
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>>3544
Your 1st and 2nd Blues are right.
Kinzo was alive since the begin of this Gameboar. Kinzo was killed at 6th Twilight.
The "Hero" killed, but obviously I won't say when and who.

>>3586
No Master Key was used. They are "linked" like the picture, Rosa-san. It's like EP3's 1st Twilight.
>> No. 3600 edit
>>3599
Not only one accomplice died.
>> No. 3605 edit
>>3600
Then, we had than more one Hero are in these gameboard.

All heroes died until now.

All the rooms are locked and unlocked by their personal keys.

The culprit didn't betrayed any accomplice until now.

There are more accomplices alive.

In the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Twilight, only accomplices died.

In the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Twilight, only Heroes died.

In the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Twilight, only Innocents died.

In the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Twilight, innocentes, heroes and accomplices died in a mix. The culprit and his accomplice remains just taking their bodies to their places, forming the link.

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>>3599
One of them people committed suicide.

One of them killed them self.

One of them died of an accident.

A trap killed one of them.

One of the keys in the link is fake, or there is a duplicate.

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>>3605
1st, 3rd and 5th blues correct.
Last blue correct, but all people died inside the rooms they were found.

>>3626
No one commited suicide.
No one was killed by a trap and/or accident.
No one killed each other.
All keys are original and there is no copy.
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>>3628
Among the surviving heroes, at least one of them knows who is the culprit and is hunting him.

The culprit changed his plans.

The accomplices who remains didn't trust in the culprit anymore, but still doing their jobs.

The culprit plans to kill everyone, accomplices included.

The culprit didn't kill everyone in the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Twilight.

The culprit didn't kill anyone until now, only accomplices and heroes.

Battler killed Kumasawa, since he had a Winchester.

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Where were the keys found in the rooms?
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>>3629
The Hero who survive isn't hunting the culprit.
The culprit did not changed his plans.
The accomplice trust on the culprit. In fact, let me correct one red: The culprit did not have participation on 4th~8th Twilight crimes.
The culprit plan only involved the murder of 1st Twilight Accomplice murder.
Penultimate blue correct.
Battler did not kill Kumasawa. She is such a lovely old lady. Why someone would kill her?

>>3699
The Keys were found near to each body.
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>>3702
One of the doors was locked from the inside.
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>>3702
As you red said: The accomplices knows every step of the plan of the culprit.

Then: The culprit is not "Iago"¹-like.

As you red said: The culprit plan only involved the murder of 1st Twilight Accomplice murder.

Not all of the six people in the 1st Twilight are needed to die in the culprit's plans.

The culprit did not planned the another Twilights, the accomplices did it (the other Twilights) by their own ways.

His plan is successful, but now is out of control.

Battler did not shoot any time with his Winchester.

No accomplices talked with "Bice" personally in this gameboard.

"Bice" still in her VIP room, incommunicable.

"Bice" is dead.


¹ - Iago, the trusted ensign in Shakespeare's Othello. He didn't killed anyone, but induced another people to do it. He's the mastermind behind all the murders on Shakespeare's Othello "Gameboard".
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>>3719
All doors were locked by outside.

>>3724
All people on 1st Twilight needed to die.
4th~8th Twilight was not part of Culprit's plan, but help him a lot.
Battler did not use his Winchester.
Bice is still in VIP Room.
Bice is not dead.

I'll give to everyone a single tip about this 4th~8th twilight "linked" closed room, for free will.
The Loved One died. The Loved One was the only one that couldn't die in Culprit's plan.

I ask you: Please, don't start to make a Blue Machine-Gun saying Kumasawa/Krauss/Kinzo/Rudolf/Rosa was The Loved One. I want theories in blue. If anyone do some Blue Machine-Gun style, I'll ignore your blue, right?
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>>3725
Repeat:
No accomplices talked with "Bice" personally in this gameboard.

"Bice" is incommunicable.


You can REFUSE, but not IGNORE it.

Let me remember you: I'm not picking any people to accomplice and not asking who talked with "Bice".
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>>3725
Repeat these please: "All the victims died in the rooms they were found."

"A hero was the last victim to die."

"An accomplice was the last victim to die."

I'm not asking for names, so I think this should be fine.
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>>3726
"Bice" is incommunicable. I refuse to repeat your first blue.

>>3727
All the victims died in the rooms they were found.. I refuse to repeat your other blues.
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>>3728
Repeat: "All windows in all of the rooms were locked."
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You refused to repeat that blue because "Bice" is the culprit. "Bice" was/is Kinzo's lover. She managed the murder of six people who have discovered her secret and hatched a plan with her accomplices.

In exchange for their services as accomplices, she would leave them to divide the Ushiromiya family's gold together. Then, Kinzo and her could escape with another names and live another lifes. But Kinzo was killed during the last Twilights, and he is the Loved One.

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>>3729
As you wish, Rosa-san: All windows in all of the rooms were locked.

>>3732
*clap**clap**clap* Excellent theory, Poirot-san! However, Bice did not talk to anyone after she was locked into VIP room. Without comunication between Culprit and Accomplice, the crime is impossible.
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>>3733
But Bice did talk to somebody BEFORE she was locked into VIP room. No contradictions here.
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