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This game is a Remake of the first gameboard I made, the one I posted on October was EP2, Now you will play EP1, Curse of the Killing Demon.

red and blue work like always,
Green helps to give hints.

Unlike some Remakes, Veteran Seacats have a role on this gameboard, The only requisite is remember who was the culprit.(Those that Joined after Kinjo Ozaki and Rosa dont count as veteran for this Gameboard, therefore they can participate and give blue)

The veterans will give Green and Hint who the culprit it is.

Since this is a remake, it will fix the problems the first gameboard has....

Now... who can I count with for this gameboard?
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I must clarify that this gameboard has a time limit and that will be when anon's gameboard start.
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>>9961
Alright, let's do it!

Im more than happy to see this new game. U can count me in!
>> No. 9964 edit
>>9963
Ok, This game was initially played against Astaroth......

The gameboard will start tomorrow, and it will end on sunday...good luck everyone~
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>>9964
sounds good, i will take the day off tomorrow to really have the time to think.
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No one wanted to answer....No one wanted to scream or cry....No one wanted to yell George

-WHY ARE WE LOCKED HERE FAT?!-Asked Piece in an angry tone
-I can't believe you messed up the board- said Friend-kun

-It wasnt my fault minna-san Someone entered and messed up with the
served-said George in a weak tone


-Stop Complaining George, this is your fault- Said Astaroth

All the /Seacats/ were angry with George, since they have been locked in the island since the morning. the time was 18:00 an all the seacats were glaring at George.


-I-it isn't G-george's fault stop blaming him-Said Gogo

-Shut up Gogo, He is the admin, he should be responsible for it -said Friend-kun

-B-but

-Everyone calm down-said Rin It have been a long day, and please stop blaming George, Seacats have been acting weird since like two weeks before..
So it was natural for this to happen.I and anon already checked everything
and we will be at least here for two days.

-TWO DAYS!! -everyone screamed in shock

-No one said anything until the dinner, only the admins remained in the room while everyone else went to sleep.
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The next Morning Lucifer lurked through the mansion, to see if the served was okay, much to his changrin the server was like yesterday...
So he decided to return to /teaparty/. he tried to open the door, but it was locked, so he decided to wait in /Genji/. When he entered Genji, 4 persons were there, Astaroth,Asune,Piece and Friend-kun

Genji and Anon shortly arrived after Lucifer

and there were 7 persons in the room.
Rin, Bern Lambda and George arrived
Kinjo and Ozaki arrived an Hour later

the 14 persons started discussing the reason about why the /teaparty/ room was locked, They asked George to open the door...and what they saw wasnt pleasing at all..

Belphe Knox Hideiling Gogo Lion and Meta
The 6 of them were sleeping...
Lucifer checked the pulse of the 6....but it was useless...the six of the them were dead
There was a weird smell in the room and it was certain that It wasn't poison
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>>10002
Well, first of all I have to ask you if this game follow the rules of Knox. If u can't say it I only want to know if I can resolve this murder with the story only.

I understand that /teaparty/ and /Genji/ are rooms. Can you repeat in red the name of all the members and add something like no more humans /seacats users/ can exists.

For my first theory, ill go simple. One of 6 is the killer. He killed them and suicided or he died in an accident.Also, maybe one of the 6 managed to kill him before dying. The murder weapon can be anything physical in the room.
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>>10003
U said that there is no shotgun right? So let me explain my blue Give me a moment please.
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>>10004
First of all, There is no murder, they are just sleeping. The fact that lucifer checked their pulse doesn't mean anything.

One of the 6 is the killer.
The smell is not what we think it is, they burned the murder weapon because it was made of wood. All my first blue can work with that.
>> No. 10006 edit
>>10003
The game follow Knox
There is a mistake in my part...I mentioned Genji 2 times, I meant to say Rosa and anon. To correct my mistake I will give you a green :
There is something fishy about this murder~

By the time the murders took place..and as seen and checked by Luci

Lucifer is alive
Belphe is dead
Meta is dead
Gogo is dead
Lion is dead
Knox is dead
Hideiling is dead
Lili is alive
Astaroth is alive
Piece is alive
Friend-kun is alive
Anon is alive
Kinjo is alive
Ozaki is alive
George is alive
Rin is alive
Lambda is alive
Bernkastel is alive
Rosa is alive
and Makk is alive


Lucifer checked and there was no way something physical was used to murder the 6, None of the victims commited suicide or died by accident
>> No. 10007 edit
>>10005
First of all, There is no murder, they are just sleeping. The fact that lucifer checked their pulse doesn't mean anything.

One of the 6 is the killer.
The smell is not what we think it is, they burned the murder weapon because it was made of wood. All my first blue can work with that.

The Six are dead, there was no way for them to murder.
also the murder weapon wasnt made of wood~

>> No. 10008 edit
>>10007
whoops, that one was meant to be a quote.
>> No. 10009 edit
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>>10006 Is it a real closed room or a fake?
Let's narrow it to the door then, as I am not a medical specialist I will keep the poison for the end.

By knox 3 and 8 I present the following theory.

The detective knows about a secret passage into the room which we dont know about.

Exemple 1 There is a secret passage in the room /genji/ that leads to /teaparty/
>> No. 10010 edit
>>10009
No secret passage exist, George would have know of it, since he designed the place.
>> No. 10012 edit
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>>10010

Lets attack the door then,
A lockpick can work on the door.
Something other what George did can Open the door. Someone hacked the server, if I would say it in your terms.
The door to teaparty is not build as the way we think, it is possible that during the night, someone removed the door and replaced it by the other side. (Im french ill explain) The lock on the door which you can open from the inside, once the door was replaced was facing the outside so he locked it from the outside and the morning they somewhat didn't see that.
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>>10010

Lets try something

The people presented here are not humans. They are data, the act of dying can mean that their data were erased or that they disappeared, its all a metaphor.
>> No. 10014 edit
There was no need for the culprit to alter the lock or change the door

This game takes place in a materialized /Seacats/ therefore the six ones that died are dead.
>> No. 10015 edit
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>>10014
George did it. George gave his knowledge to someone else during the night who lied and did it
>> No. 10016 edit
>>10015
I need a full theory for that, I cannot reply with just that.
>> No. 10019 edit
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There was no need for the culprit to alter the lock or change the door.

-It wasnt my fault minna-san Someone entered and messed up with the server

Its a wordplay
The killer knew how to unlock the door, he didnt alter or change it.

also the murder weapon wasnt made of wood~
The murder weapon was made of something else that can be burned, the red doesn't deny this!
>> No. 10020 edit
>>10019
Okay, i will give you that one...
The killer knew how to unlock the door, he didnt alter or change it.
The murder weapon was made of something else that can be burned

>> No. 10023 edit
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>>10020
U are trying to confuse me !! with my words!!!!!

The murder weapon was burned before/after the crime.

Not only did he knew about how to unlock the door, but that way was either the same way as George did, or a way that he did himself implant into the door. All of it shall be by human means.
>> No. 10024 edit
>>10023
I need to give you 2 theory for this, please wait again.
>> No. 10025 edit
Ok I wil wait.
>> No. 10028 edit
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The killer hid in the room during the time the others went to sleep, he murdered them, burned the weapon and went out by the door during the night. The closed room was made by the autolock on the door, or the killer had set something when he *hacked* on the door. A remote device that doesn't alter the door, and locked the door from the outside. The hint for the remote device is once more
-It wasnt my fault minna-san Someone entered and messed up with the
served-said George in a weak tone
>> No. 10029 edit
>>10028
is that acceptable or do you me to find the murder weapon first?
>> No. 10030 edit
>>10028
It was impossible to hide on /teaparty/ since there are no closets big enough for a person.
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>>10030
But you did not deny the rest ! I just have to find a good way to formulate it. Let's see, it is not yet a real closed room.

I have to ask you
-No one said anything until the dinner, only the admins remained in the room while everyone else went to sleep.

Who are the admins? If i am not wrong George is one of them. Something is fishy!!!

I will just change the first part of my last blue.



The killer did not hide, he knocked on the door and they let him in.
>> No. 10032 edit
>>10031
There was no need to knock the door...
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>>10032
George did it!!!! He is not dead he was already in the room, had a way in and out, and of course Burned the weapon after the crime !!!!
>> No. 10034 edit
>>10033
mfw you are reacting the same way my original opponent acted...

George is NOT THE Culprit
>> No. 10035 edit
>>10033
Or.... I am a very big noob and the killer never entered the room.


Lets see, something that can be burned, that was not used in a phycical attack, and that leave no trace. Something that they eated !!!
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>>10034
Yeah, it is not a closed room yet. hmm but by the way u phrased your reds, I think u are telling me that i am not searching at the good place.

Can you define poison?
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>>10036
Don't worry about it, Lion's games aren't considered very orthodox even under Seacats' standards.
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>>10037
Thanks, well Ill use his rules in my advantage.

Since u just want to deny the first part of my blue, i can shotgun that part, right? As long as I have a full theory.
Part 1

No secret passage exist, George would have know of it, since he designed the place.
George is the detective, he knows about passage which are not qualified as secrets passages. Maybe a secret passage on the door itself.


The door has no real lock, the fact that it was blocked is from something else blocking it. George just removed that thing.

The smell was not poison, but a gaz, once condensed inside the room, that blocked the door, once more the lock was fake.
>> No. 10039 edit
Lucifer actually plays that role...


The door has actually a lock

Such gas didnt and doesnt exist in the room
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>>10039
Mada mada
The room where they slept is room x. Room x and teaparty are in fact parts the same room.
The next Morning Lucifer lurked through the mansion, to see if the served was okay, much to his changrin the server was like yesterday...
They went outside of the room, then one by one tried to come back inside and realized it was locked.

Some of the names in the red are missinformation, deny the name theory!!

At the time they went to sleep, someone put something at the edge of the door, so it wouldn't close completely, there was no need to unlock it.

The door was not locked during the night.
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>>10040

This is the best theory yet, not even using my right to the nine rule. I hope this is good.

George went outside during the night, this is the time the killer went inside.


Yeah, I can go on forever !! Please, can you define poison?
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>>10041
hmmm, I dont do that to be mean ok? If u want me to stop you tell me. Im taking this game seriously, and *rp* like Battler did. It justs because u choose to block me like 1 thing when I have lot of complete theory I cant use. Im still thinking the killer never went inside, but I cant continue until u define what is a poison.
>> No. 10043 edit
>>10042
Sorry I thought I already replied to you...



The door was not locked during the night.

/Teaparty/is only one room and the dormitories is another room
Red only tells the truth, and there was no way they could leave the room once they entered

the last one can't happen since there was also a chain that prevented people from entering

George didnt have anything to do with that door...
>> No. 10044 edit
>>10042
You are doing a fine job and I am happy that my game is being taken seriously. that is why I promise you to don't disappoint you.
>> No. 10045 edit
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tsk. fine.

The killer never entered inside the room/or wasn't in the room during the crime. The closed room was made before the crime.

Everything I present here and in the posts to come is the murder weapon and something that would cause the smell of that phrase.

There was a weird smell in the room and it was certain that It wasn't poison

It was drugs. By knox 9 I present the theory of an overdose of sleeping pills. They were in the food.
>> No. 10046 edit
>>10045
I need to justify this.

Sleeping pills can work by the fact that they were described as sleeping.
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>>10045
The smell was not poison, but a gaz, once condensed inside the room, that blocked the door, once more the lock was fake. Such gas didnt and doesnt exist in the room

-It wasnt my fault minna-san Someone entered and messed up with the
served-said George in a weak tone

It was gaz, just not such gaz as decribed earlier. When the killer messed up with it, he made something on the server that once touched would activate the poisonnous gaz. The admins went to repair the thing and activated it.
Let me explain, my definition of poison is something that once injected or eaten kills you. If i go further I can say that that thing was made to kill.

I can, then present gazs or anything that was not made to kill, but did kill. Except if you define it yourself. That gaz, of course was not amde to kill, but if u take too much of it, ull die. Not to much, it does not have to block a door or it wont work. I cant tell you any exact name, as i am not specialist. I can search though, but if the limit is this sunday.... forget it.
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>>10047

What if the smell is coming from themselves, they were choked, mini bomb theory in the food, burned from the inside. they are described as sleeping, ok but nothing tells me that they are happy and sleeping. They might be in pain when they died. Once again, if it is the choked theory, its by the killer's trap.
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The door was not locked during the night. Can you say that in red?

the last one can't happen since there was also a chain that prevented people from entering Time trick, the chain was set at x but it was unset before/after the crime.
>> No. 10053 edit
>>10047
>>10045
>>10049
>>10048


The server was destroyed so that people couldnt escape the mansion
Poisonous gas wasn't involved in this murder
a time trick isn't the main part of the murder.
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>>10052
im going to sleep now, good night! Lets finish this I hope tomorrow.
>> No. 10055 edit
>>10054
I am looking forward to your answers for tomorrow.
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>>10053
You didn't told me about anything physical in red because of this red right? Lucifer checked and there was no way something physical was used to murder the 6 I thought she examinated only the outside of the corspes, that's why I thought something could have happened inside them.

Ok, i need to certify this closed room.

a time trick isn't the main part of the murder.

Can I trust a sorcerer. I think I will have to do it by logic.
The only 2 ways in left that I can think of is by the crack when the door is not locked, and the chain is set/unset. Or someone else than George let them enter. Ill analyse about what I forgot tomorrow.

The auto kill theory can still work and is most likely the good one, but I have nothing inside the room as an hint except the smell.

What's unalysed by now is the killed from the outside theory, but with the red removing all physical attacks it will be hard.

I was thinking when I read it about something like, they were only sleeping, and then when lucifer touched them she killed them, but yeah now that cant work at all.
>> No. 10058 edit
>>10056
someone else than George let them enter
>> No. 10060 edit
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Alright Round 2. Ok I have a way in now.

Something is still wrong with all this.
George is an admin, hes supposed to know something right?
Yet.
George is NOT THE Culprit . George didnt have anything to do with that door...

The door is the only way in and out, George is an admin, he was inside the room at the time they went to sleep, now he is outside. Then u told me this.
Red only tells the truth, and there was no way they could leave the room once they entered

So what's going on here? George was either not inside the room at the first place, but he is supposed to be an admin. So he cannot leave the room. George is the one that's supposed to have opened the door, but now he cant do that.

The text says
"and there were 7 persons in the room.
Rin, Bern Lambda and George arrived
Kinjo and Ozaki arrived an Hour later "

Or
The text is not truth, the phrase about 7 persons in the room is about /teaparty/. Lili is inside teaparty. She opened the door the morning.

U told me
There is a mistake in my part...I mentioned Genji 2 times, I meant to say Rosa and anon. To correct my mistake I will give you a green :
There is something fishy about this murder~

But where is lili, I dont see it. He entered the room Genji, there were 4 people inside.Rosa and Anon shortly arrived after Lucifer thats 7,

Rin, Bern Lambda and George arrived
Kinjo and Ozaki arrived an Hour later

I count 13 people, not 14.
Belphe Knox Hideiling Gogo Lion and Meta are dead.
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>>10060
Lili is an admin, she let the killer inside, after the crime she stays in the room and open the door the morning for george.
>> No. 10064 edit
>>10063

The text is the truth, the phrase about 7 persons in the room is about /Genji/.


Lili isnt an admin
>> No. 10066 edit
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>>10064
Almost no time left, come on. I must be close.

The killer was inside /teaparty/ during the night, someone let him inside. It doesn't has to be an admin. Lili is the one that created the closed room, as she is the only one which the location is unknown at the morning. She is inside /teaparty/ and that is why lucifer can identify her health status.
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>>10066
I was thinking yesterday, what if the smell represent not something, but the lack of something. Man I could use some help here.
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>>10067
Sorry, I remember the culprit of this game, but I don't even remember if it had real hints toward the howdunnit.
>> No. 10071 edit
>>10066


>The killer was inside /teaparty/ during the night, someone let him inside. It doesn't has to be an admin. Lili is the one that created the closed room, as she is the only one which the location is unknown at the morning. She is inside /teaparty/ and that is why lucifer can identify her health status.

of course that he was inside /Teaparty/
>> No. 10072 edit
>>10071
So now all I need is the murder weapon... arrghh let me think,
>> No. 10081 edit
>>10072
ALright, anon's game has started. I lost.

From now on , even if I find the murder weapon, I can't call this a vctory since the time limit is over. I must respect the rules.
>> No. 10095 edit
>>10081
it will count as a victory~ so you can think, considering the time seacats was down, you have 10 extra hours~
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>>10095
New theory !!!! Be prepared sorcerer!!!

The killer used a special type of candle that releases a scent that helped him do some sort of mind control on the 6 (hypnotism, is whatI am reffereing to or something of the same kind), thus the wird scent when he entered, upon being controled he may have given an order causing them to die by someother means, also the reason why they looked as if they were sleeping (maybe an after-effect of the "mind control") therefore even though they killed themselves, that act being carried out beyond their own will due to the "mind control" it is still considered a murder and not a suicide
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>>10142
such candle didnt existed in the room.
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>>10159

they died by allergy. The killer burned something inside the room/or just created the smell that caused them to die.
>> No. 10161 edit
>>10160
For example, pollen !!
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>>10159
They died by the lack of oxygen !!! The smell is co2. Reusing the same theory of Rudolf. *** Cant help it.
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>>10160
It took you a while~ but yeah, They died due to the lack of Oxygen.......

No one survived......
Congratulations, Mion-san.....

From this Twilight onwards, I will be the Game Master~
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>>10163
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>>10163
I will improve, once again I had to shotgun for the most part. Thank you for letting me play this part, I had an awesome experience.
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>>10165
I am sorry, but the torture will continue......
A twilight is not enough for this.....this shall be an infinite torture....until one of us gives up.....
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>>10166
I will never give up !!! It will be a torture for you because even if I must shotgun every words I will always find the trick.

Give up isn't in my vocabulary.
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Good job there.
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>>10166
The Rena I know would not believe in such things like witches and magic. This is all an illusion! I will prove it.
>> No. 10170 edit
>>10167
I shall post the next twilight in 8 or 9 hours~ for now I will sleep~
>> No. 10171 edit
>>10170
Ahhhhhh thanks, me too. Alright good night.
>> No. 10182 edit
Everyone in the mansion were placing blames on each other, The discussion of the first twilight unsued for at least 4 hours.

Tired of the discussion, Each one dedided to lock themselves in a room.

-Astaroth do you think the murderer is one of us?
-With the recent events Lili, I think that is the case...
-You know, with the recent fights I don't doubt someone would have a grudge against someone.
-But I doubt someone would go that far.
-wait a moment....what is that sme...
-WATCH OUT! There....is there is a goat behind you.
What are you talking about?
-Wait a minute....isn't the room a little too dar........



By this point Astaroth and Lili are death, No falsehood in this murder
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>>10182
hehehehe, as I can see, you killed lili huh. Smart move !! But a goat cannot exists, once more, its all an illusion. I will think smarter than before (ill try to), I will solve this with the text only!


By this point Astaroth and Lili are death, No falsehood in this murder I suppose the last part of the sentence only means that they are really dead. Not that the goat exists and killed them !

The goat represent an explosion. The watch out and the little time they had to react can all be explained by an explosion.
>> No. 10184 edit
>>10183

The goat represent an explosion. The watch out and the little time they had to react can all be explained by an explosion.



there are no traces of polvora in the room
>> No. 10185 edit
>>10184
I must clarify that the first line is supposed to be on >this
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>>10185
I have no choice but to eliminate this thing first, let's see if it is a trap or not.

-wait a moment....what is that sme...
-WATCH OUT! There....is there is a goat behind you.
What are you talking about?
-Wait a minute....isn't the room a little too dar........

Watch out, The goat represent the killer, he was hiding inside the room. The dark of the room is literal, shes dying.
>> No. 10187 edit
>>10186
its okay, the killer didn't need to touch the victims to kill them, and they didn't eat or drink anything weird
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>>10187
the killer didn't need to touch the victims to kill them, and they didn't eat or drink anything weird

That's exactly what I wanted, a clear red and I guess the eat or drink part is for me and my weirds ideas! U must be proud of this trick Rena-san, maybe a little too proud.

I will continue with my mind set as, the killer was not inside the room. (except this blue)

there are no traces of polvora in the room.
Nice try !! Let's destroy that part first. Even if there is 1% chance u had a wordplay in that, I cant risk it.
Time trick, the killer may have removed the polvora or the trap was made so that the polvora would not touch the floor.
>> No. 10191 edit
>>10188
Polvora wasn't used to murder Lili and Astaroth.
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>>10191
So no gunshot either huh?

Tired of the discussion, Each one decided to lock themselves in a room.

Does that mean each of them locked themselves in a different room? Or they all locked themselves in the same room?

Reading the story for the 30th time now, it looks like it is the second one, so I was going the wrong way with my "the killer is not inside" theory. Yet he did not touch them directly.

The goat still represent the killer. He did not touch them directly since he had a goat costume, which has gloves!!! Or the murder weapon is not considered as to touch someone. He stabbed them.
>> No. 10215 edit
>>10205
The goat still represent the killer. He did not touch them directly since he had a goat costume, which has gloves!!! Or the murder weapon is not considered as to touch someone. He stabbed them.

Stabbing counts as touching, HE CERTAINLY DIDN'T TOUCH The victim...and the killer certainly wasn't in the room
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>>10215
The goat himself wants to deny my theory, well that's okay because my main theory is gas!!!

Now what kind of gas,it has to cause an hallucination, then death.
Let's see what is your answer if I type just that.
It was a poisonnous gas that killed them.
There was a trap inside the room that released the gas.

>> No. 10222 edit
>>10216

There are not devices which count as traps
>> No. 10244 edit
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>>10222
The killer had nothing to do, the room going dark.

An hallucination, a smell, the watch out.

They could have talked until the end, so the stab idea was stupid. No pain, the room going dark... it is murder, the killer does not need to touch the victims to kill them. It can be gas, but no traps. So how is that possible, hmmmmm this is hard indeed. I have a few ideas, I need to verify something first.

Can you repeat something for me? In this case, there are no accidents that helped the killer to kill.

If you can't repeat it, then I have a lot of ways to set the gas without a trap.

I have seen goat = killer, and goat = bomb threatening/bomb theory. Nothing else comes in mind, Room going dark, I have seen that when they lost consciousness due to gas or physical hit on the head. Well the killer didn't touch them/ wasn't in the room, so right now all I have is gas and a surprise attack!

Lets base on that, the dark represents one of them when she lost consciousness, then right after that she was state as dead. She couldn't even finish her sentence, something killed her very fast.

I really need that red now, lets force it out.


An earthquake or something made the upper floor collapse on the room. They died in the process. Of course it is murder, the killer provoked it.
>> No. 10256 edit
>>10244
people would have noticed the earthquake and would have seen that they died like that~
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>>10256
-You know, with the recent fights I don't doubt someone would have a grudge against someone.
-But I doubt someone would go that far.
-wait a moment....what is that sme...
-WATCH OUT! There....is there is a goat behind you.
What are you talking about?
-Wait a minute....isn't the room a little too dar........


There is a smell, Then something happens, something that was not there before because of the "WATCH OUT", its coming after them. Then, the goat, the key element is the goat. After that is the dark, but the dark is not dark, "it's a little too dark", it's in the process of being dark.

1: A smell
2: "Watch out"
3: The goat
4: "A little too dark"

First the smell
No traps inside, no killer inside.
No traps outside, the killer is outside.

The smell is from the inside, but there is no trap to provoke it. The killer is outside, how can he provoke the smell himself. He did something from the outside that created a smell inside. There are no openings, except if the smell came in from the passage that was made when the door was open at time x.

If it's not, then someone from the inside provoked the smell.
What is the smell exactly? For now it can be almost anything except something that leaves polvora.

The "watch out"

So there is a smell, then something changes inside the room.

There are 2 theorys for that one.
The smell provoked the "watch out".
The smell didn't provoke the "watch out".

If the smell is the cause, we can assume that the smell altered something inside of them that made them at least nervous. Or its the smell itself that caused it, by seeing it or by the source of it.

If the smell is not what made her say "watch out", then it has to be the goat. That leads to what is the goat?

Again if the goat is an effect of the smell and the watch out, it can be an hallucination/illusion.

If it's not, then its the killer.
I can resolve without the dark part.

The killer unlocked/opened the door at time x before the crime, he had poison gas inside of something that doesn't count as a trap and released it inside of the room. The goat represents a mask gas that he had so he wouldn't die from his own gas.
>> No. 10289 edit
except if the smell came in from the passage that was made when the door was open at time x.
Such passage don't exist

The killer unlocked/opened the door at time x before the crime, he had poison gas inside of something that doesn't count as a trap and released it inside of the room. The goat represents a mask gas that he had so he wouldn't die from his own gas.

Poison gas was involved.....

BUT I CAN STILL CLAIM THAT THE DEMON RELEASED POISON GAS From its mouth....
>> No. 10290 edit
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>>10289
That is check, now I got you cornered. All I need is that small element, a mouse hole and your done with !

except if the smell came in from the passage that was made when the door was open at time x.
Such passage don't exist

mwhahahaha I will my time, don't worry i will find it. First let's see if there is a wordplay.

If the passage is there from the start, it can works. The door was not open, there is a passage already that can get the poison inside of the room. Maybe under the door, or on top of it, or by the crack of the lock pick. Your goat can throw poison from his mouth if you want him to, AS LONG as he is an illusion!!!
>> No. 10291 edit
>>10290
Secret passages aren't allowed by Knox
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>>10291
Well, I don't think that was very relevant right?
Secret passage is a vague concept in umineko, but I think what you meant is that there is no way to put the gas inside from my methods so I wont argue.

Hmmmm, by saying that poison gas was involved kind of make it hard for me. So it was your trap after all ! You got me where you wanted, a perfect murder.
>> No. 10293 edit
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So the gas was inside the whole time. Poison gas, no traps.


-With the recent events Lili, I think that is the case...



Astaroth had the poison to protect himself because he thought the killer might be lili, but an accident happened and the poison was release and killed them.

One of them was an accomplice, the poison was activated by the accomplice inside of the room, then someone opens the door, but the killer decides that he doesn't need an accomplice and kill her instead.
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>>10293
Or

The killer had an accomplice to set up the gas, but an accident happened and they both died. Simple like that. The goat is still an ilusion.
>> No. 10302 edit
Lili and Astaroth are Innocent
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>>10302
No accomplices, no killer inside, no traps, no passage that leads to the room at the time of murder.


The gas was involved, but did not kill them. They were locked in tea party and died by another lack of oxygen...
>> No. 10348 edit
>>10328
the poison gas killed them
>> No. 10349 edit
>>10328
dat art
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>>10348
The poison gas came from the vent. It is considered as a hidden passage since everyone knows about the vent. The tip about the vent itself might be in the last murder. Poison gas killed them.
>> No. 10370 edit
>>10369
not * considered lol
>> No. 10375 edit
There are no vents in the room

a clue:
Something that its not related to locks or leaving or entering the room, was replaced with the murder weapon
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>>10375
It was food poisoning!

They shouldn't be 2 inside of the room, one of them is having an hallucination and the other one is poison lol.
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>>10402
It wasn't food poisoning
Lili and Astaroth's bodies were found in the room
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>>10403
This is it !It was an object in the room that released the gas! It is not considered a trap since the role of that object is too release gas! It was from the air refresher!
>> No. 10405 edit
>>10404
It wasn't a device the murder weapon.
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>>10405

There was a chimney inside of the room. One wooden plank was aroused with poison. Once the fire reached that plank, it released the poison inside of the room.
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>>10435
OR The chimney created a big fire that burned the room. They died by the emanation and the "room going dark" is from the smoke!
>> No. 10445 edit
>>10435
there wasn't a chinmey in the room

You are in the right direction~
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>>10445
Can you define what is a device then?

The shower was activated inside of the bathroom of the room, they did not realise it until one of them opened the bathroom door, letting the water mixed with poison inside of the main part of the room.
>> No. 10463 edit
>>10462
the murder weapon was inside of the room . There is no bathroom in the room
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>>10463
Tsk, if you dont want to define things im just going to make sure of a few things myself.

The poison gas was already in the room when they entered. Nothing changed while they were inside of the room. It was a poison that took time to provide an effect.
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>>10464
Yeah that could work, the gas was filled inside of the room before the crime. There is no need for device nor traps, its just gas.
>> No. 10467 edit
>>10466
then how was the poison released?


Device is a mechanical artifact that can help with murders
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>>10467

Device is a mechanical artifact that can help with murders

That is just a wordplay!! Mechanical artifact doesn't mean anything.

Alright, you want to do it like that. The hint for the murder weapon itself is an allusion. Therefore, anything that is not a device/trap can have released the gas.

There was a balloon/something on the floor, they stepped on it and released the gas.
>> No. 10484 edit
a ballon wasnt used for the murder

Fire was used in the murder yet no one died burned in the room
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>>10484
Someone lighted a candle when they entered the room. The candle had poison wax that was release inside of the room. The "room going dark" is from the finished candle.
>> No. 10486 edit
>>10485
Correct!
That is what happened~


Now lets wait for the Fourth Twilight
>> No. 10527 edit
Kinjo Ozaki and Anon were in one of the rooms
The three were playing a gameboard to pass time,
-So, Who do you think murdered those 6?
-I am not sure the only thing I know is that we aren't safe in the Mansion.-said Ozaki
-At least it is known. that it was done out of a grudge, considering the fights we have been having lately-said Anon

-Well, I think it was too much to murder them-said Kinjo.

TOO MUCH I THINK THEY DESERVED IT!

Who are you?

You don't need to know me......

Suddenly They started to feel a hole in their stomach....

Kinjo Ozaki and Anon....died from the pain......

Only laughter was heard.....


Kinjo Ozaki and anon are dead.There is no way they can't be alive, and there is only one Kinjo, One Ozaki, and one anon, and its impossible to fake their murders

This is a locked room with a chain
>> No. 10528 edit
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>>10527
Hmmm, is it a locked room trick? Let's see.


No illusion, the killer is inside of the room at the time of the murder. He killed them with a gun.
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>>10527
Small bombs
>> No. 10530 edit
>>10528
No falsehood, the murder was inside and murdered them
However how it entered?
There is no way to open the door when the metal chain is set...
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>>10530
The chain was only set during the time that the killer was inside. It was not set when he entered!
>> No. 10532 edit
>>10531
Take that counter logic blue Lion! You have to counter it mwhahahaha
>> No. 10533 edit
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>>10532
Oh and if you say nothing about it.

Since the chain was not set, the killer entered by the door.
>> No. 10534 edit
>>10533
The chain was set before the murder took place, and it was only removed when people appeared in the room to find the corpses
>> No. 10535 edit
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>>10534
Huhh So how did he left the room?

The chain can be set/unset from the outside of the room.
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>>10534
Alright, lets work on that door. (sry for double post, here is my theory.)

The door doesn't need to be "opened" to give an access inside of the room. While the door is describe as closed and locked, it is still possible to go through it.
>> No. 10537 edit
>>10536
The chain can't be unset from the Outisde
Regardless of how they were killed, The killer certainly managed to enter into the room and kill everyone except him.

>> No. 10539 edit
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Regardless of how they were killed, The killer certainly managed to enter into the room and kill everyone except him.

Of course, it is also part of my blue. Let me give you an example.

The killer made a passage inside of the room by damaging the door.
>> No. 10540 edit
>>10539
People would have noticed the damaged door, but the door of the room that has the corpses of Kinjo Ozaki and Anon is undamaged.
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>>10540
the door of the room that has the corpses of Kinjo Ozaki and Anon is undamaged.
The killer repaired the door.

The chain was set before the murder took place, and it was only removed when people appeared in the room to find the corpses

The time when the chain was set is before the time the murder took place, but it's not before the killer entered the room. Someone set the set while the killer is inside before the murder.

Second example. The door is not made by the way we think that its made, there is a passage under, inside or on top of the door that can let a human pass while the door is close. I am thinking about a pet door, but it can be anything that would not be considered hidden.
>> No. 10552 edit
There was no need to repair it, since it wasnt broken in the first place

The killer escaped without the need of someone else
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>>10552
Huhhhhh So all I need is a way out then?
It's a time trick, and a wordplay

The chain was set before the murder took place, and it was only removed when people appeared in the room to find the corpses.

This is what blocks me right now, let me try.
When you say removed, it means that someone cut the chain and removed it, the action of removing and unsetting are 2 differents things. After the crime, the killer sets the chain from the outside, because he still can sets it. They only removed it when they entered the room to find the corpses.
>> No. 10555 edit
When you say removed, it means that someone cut the chain and removed it, the action of removing and unsetting are 2 differents things. After the crime, the killer sets the chain from the outside, because he still can sets it. They only removed it when they entered the room to find the corpses.

actually I mean unset, its impossible to remove it without breaking the door
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>>10555
Well, if you dont want to deny my theory.

The killer used the same way he used to enter to leave the room.

Now... as I know that you will destroy my "enter theory", let me give you a new one.

Kinjo Ozaki and anon are dead.There is no way they can't be alive, and there is only one Kinjo, One Ozaki, and one anon, and its impossible to fake their murders.
Now now, why would you tell me just like that that They only have 1 name, you didn't do that during the last murders.
The three were playing gameboard means that one of them is roleplaying. The killer never entered the room by physical ways.
Ill start with that general blue, if you dont deny it I will continue.
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>>10558
It sounds like the killer never touched the door.

First example:
Shkanon theory. The killer is one of the 3 that was "roleplaying" during the gameboard game. He then killed his other self to "leave the room".
Second example:
The killer is X. One of the three roleplayed X, this is the time when the killer entered and left the room. What killed them is a trap, a guntrap.
>> No. 10603 edit
>>10602
Ozaki Kinjo and anon didn't murder each other, evem if one of them had other personalities there was no way they would harm the other two

The murderer actually escaped thanks to luck
>> No. 10606 edit
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>>10603
Say it, the killer was physically inside of the room when he killed them.
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>>10606
How about a sneaky little killer.

The killer was already inside of the room from the start. After the murder, he left the room when the others unlocked the chain.
>> No. 10608 edit
>>10607
Exactly Mion, You solved the fourth twilight~
Congratulations
>> No. 10610 edit
After realizing that Astaroth and Lili were dead, people went to Kinjo's room to inform them about the murders, however it was too late Ozaki Anon and Kinjo were dead....

Everyone decided to lock themselves in each othe rooms with a gun....


2 hours laters some screams were heard in the hallways

Everyone gathered and the murder victims this time were
Lambda and Rin.....

They had a cold temperature and they had a shocked face
in their stomach there was a wound which couldn't have been caused by a gun.
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>>10610
They were stabbed with a frozen dagger!!
>> No. 10613 edit
>>10612
. people would have noticed the dagger due to the cold metal
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>>10613
They were stabbed with a dagger that is made of ice!
>> No. 10615 edit
>>10614
I wasnt expecting this to be solve that fast....


Here is sixth Twilight.....

After making the autopsy and revealing the dagger made of ice, people started to wonder about the possibility of being Meta, however he was certainly dead.

So they started to wonder if one of the dead wasn't dead after all....

They realized that after all this murders being separated would cause them to be murdered so each of the remaining seacats gathered on /Gameboard/

By this time, 13 persons were killed and only
Lucifer,Belphe,Piece,Friend-kun,George,Bernkastel,Rosa and Makk
were the only ones alive
everyone else was dead.....
So the only possibility is that the eight remaining ones were the culprits...

Fights started and when a suspicious weapon appeared in the room, near Rosa and Makk people chased them out of the room....and the mansion was silent for a while.....

after realizing that what they have done is wrong they started searching for them...however it was too late...

They tried to open the door however it was impossible since there was a chain again this time, they cut the chain again, and what they saw leaved them spechless, Rosa and Makk were full of bleeding holes and they were bathed in blood, the two of them were completly dead.
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>>10615
First of all, this is not a closed room because Mak or Rosa could have putted the chain on the door.

What killed them is a trap. The most obvious one would be a trap that once activated, exploded and released a lot of little metal fragments.

>> No. 10680 edit
>>10620
Metal objects weren't used for this murders
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10709
No metal? Well, can I analyse the body then...

Also, the status of the room would help a lot.
>> No. 10712 edit

the autopsy revealed that the wounds were fresh, and that they were covered in a jelly substance.



the only odor in the room was the sweet jelly substance..however that substance didn't had anything toxic, therefore it was impossible to kill the victims with that substance
the room had lots of vents
but judging by the odor of the room, it was impossible for something toxic like poison gas to be used in this room.

>> No. 10715 edit
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10715
If the substance has no toxic on it,
The jelly substance is an after effect of the murder weapon.

At this point, it could be anything.
They were killed by a trap that injected something into their body. That substance was not considered toxic, and the chemical reaction made their blood turn jelly and killed them from the inside. Maybe an allergic reaction, The bleeding holes are the blood that expended inside of their corpses that wants to get out.

They were injected a pump of jelly and exploded.!!
>> No. 10717 edit
The jelly substance isn't an after effect of the murder weapon.

They were killed by a trap that injected something into their body.

>> No. 10718 edit
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Can you define toxic pleeease?
>> No. 10719 edit
>>10718
something that can poison the victim
>> No. 10721 edit
>>10719
Tsk, everything is toxic then. Even water can lead to water intoxication when taken in too high a dose.
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I can think of many traps.I need more information.
First, confirm this.

The jelly substance only served the purpose of bait.

First theory,
The trap was activated by themselves.
They eated something that killed them./They drank something that killed them.

>> No. 10731 edit
>>10729

The jelly substance only served the purpose of bait.


the murder method was triggered by themselves.
They didn't eated something that killed them./They didn't drink something that killed them.
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I am back to finish this murder !
>>10731
First, i am going to check if there is a wordplay here.
The jelly substance is not the murder weapon. Therefore, they were injected with murder weapon x that killed them. Murder weapon x can be toxic. They were injected with poison.

I also thought of something not toxic, let me try it.

It's air. The trap somehow injected air into their blood and that is what killed them. The bleeding holes were made from the jelly substance.

>> No. 10821 edit
The jelly substance is not the murder weapon. Therefore, they were injected with murder weapon x that killed them.

It ISN'T air.
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>>10821
The jelly is in reality honey which served as bait for bees that came through the air vents and stung them to death, thus explaining the holes in their bodies, they were injected the bees venom or sting and they fell on the honey which covered their body as they rolled on the ground in pain.
>> No. 10828 edit
>>10827
THERE ARE NO AIR VENTS IN THE ROOM.
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>>10828
There are vents in the room! It is clearly stated in red already!! just not AIR vents.

You are dead Lion, the bees killed them !
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>>10829
the vents were too small for bees so it was impossible for them to enter
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>>10830
Alright, what will you do if i say it like that.
The bees were already inside the room in a X location and were released by the trap or entered the room via entry X and after stinging them to death exited via the vents as the previous red only says that they may not enter through the vents
>> No. 10833 edit
congratulations......you solved this one.
>> No. 11196 edit
Lucifer, Piece,Friend-kun,George,Bernkastel were the only ones in the remaining, so they decided to lock themselves in a different room.....

after a while..everyone decided to come out, and realized that Lucifer was the only one that didn't come......so they opened the room and realized that the room was locked with a chain and that Lucifer wasn't there....suddenly, a drop of blood fell into Bernkastel and when they looked upward they realized that their friend was dead......


HOW DID LUCIFER GET OUT OF THE ROOM?

HOW WAS HE KILLED?
>> No. 11288 edit
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>>11196
I analyse the body,and the chain on the door.
Then, I cut the chain and analyse the room just like last time.
>> No. 11289 edit
>>11288
Lucifer was found hanged in the hallway from a Chandelier.
and the room was locked with a chain.
the bed was warm, which means not much time happened since he died.

>> No. 11294 edit
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The killer is one of the survivors. He went out of his room and entered Lucifer's room before killing her. Then, he moved the body outside, locked the chain from the inside and passed by the window to create the illusion.
>> No. 11295 edit
>>11294
there isn't a window in that room
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>>11295
The killer replaced the chain with a stick or something similar before closing the door.

The chain can be placed from the outside.

>> No. 11298 edit
>>11297
its impossible to replace the chain also iy can only be set from inside
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>>11298
The killer can leave the room by the door while the chain is on. The chain does not work properly.
>> No. 11300 edit
>>11299
Its impossible to leave the room while the chain is set, the chai works perfectly.
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>>11300
The killer has an accomplice that set the chain from the inside.

The killer has made a trap that could set the chain from the inside.

>> No. 11302 edit
>>11301
There isn't an accomplice in this murder
Such device doesnt exist.

>> No. 11337 edit
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>>11302
Perfect closed room you say? Im just starting!!

The narration about only those 5 still alive is a lie, killer x is still on the lose.

After the crime he decided to hide in the room or he suicided inside, he also sets the chain from the inside.

>> No. 11342 edit
the killer couldn't have been found inside,people would have noticed him.
>> No. 11343 edit
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>>11342
Something is wrong. Time trick.
Lucifer never had the chance to enter his room since the chain was on from the start.
the bed was warm, which means not much time happened since he died.
Not much time happened since he died, but he never entered the room, the fact that the bed is warm is from something else. He was killed outside of the room.
>> No. 11344 edit
>>11343
LUCIFER INDEED ENTERED TO HIS ROOM
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>>11344
>>11344
Well ok.
Analyse the corpse. Did he lose any PART? Is he in ashes? Is he human? Is the Chandelier totally outside of the room?
>> No. 11350 edit
>>11345
Lucifer was hanged in the chandelier, the only wounds he had were in his neck, he died cause he was hanged from the chandelier.
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>>11344
Wait a second...
"His room" is not the the room with the chain.
>> No. 11381 edit
"His room" is DEED the the room with the chain.
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>>11300
Its impossible for someone to leave the room while the chain is sets, but it's possible for a corpse.
There is another passage to get out of the room than the door.

>> No. 11383 edit
>>11382
This apply to corpses too, there are no secret passages
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>>11383
I analyse the room, tell me more about what is inside except of the bed.
>> No. 11387 edit
>>11384
nothing relevant except that bed is still warm.
>> No. 11391 edit
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I have a new theory. First allow this

The reason the bed is warm is not because of Lucifer.
>> No. 11392 edit
>>11391
Its difficult to determine that due to the short time it passed.
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I had a lot of time to think about it. Show me how you protect this closed room Rena.
When everyone meets in the hallway, someone is still inside of Lucifer's room.That person doesn't have to be alive. That person locked the chain from the inside.

From there, I can think of a few choices.
First theory: Lucifer is the killer, he suicided inside of the room.

Now for how he get out of the room, my blue was really hard to understand (mostly because of my english) so I will tell you like this instead.
The chandelier is inside of the room from the start, when the group opened the door they (activated a trap) that moved the corpse outside of the room. The trick is here, the corpse has to be inside and outside of the room at the same time. One example could be that the chandelier is attached to the inner part of the door.
>> No. 11460 edit
the chandelier was outside of the room
No traps are involved in this murder


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Theory two:
The narration lied, Bernkastel is still in Lucifer's room. They both shared the same room, and at some point Lucifer suicided in the hallway and Bern locked the door. She didn't help him and she is not an accomplice.
>> No. 11462 edit
>>11461

The narration is like the red, it never lies, but it can't be as clear as the red
>> No. 11464 edit
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The chain is a sophisticated chain and has an autolock.

There are 2 chains on the door. "The chain" refers to the first chain, and the second chain is the one that was on when they tried to open the door.

>> No. 11465 edit
>>11464

its a simple chain.
>> No. 11466 edit
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Third theory: One of the dead is not dead and entered Lucifer's room. He is not the killer nor an accomplice, but he made Lucifer suicide and locked the door from the inside.
>> No. 11467 edit
>>11466
only the killer is capable of killing Lucifer didn't commit suicide
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Oh, is that a deviation? I just have to change that part then.
Someone was not dead. That person went into Lucifer's room to tell him about what happened. Lucifer wanted to get out of the room to alert the others, but the killer was waiting outside and killed him. The other person locked the door because he was afraid and hid in the room.
>> No. 11469 edit
>>11468
Piece,Friend-kun,George,Bernkastel are the only ones alive and the rest are dead and none of 4 persons mentioned alive could have possibly killed Lucifer
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Another deviation
The killer suicided after the murder.
>> No. 11471 edit
>>11470
the killer is still alive
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>>11469
>>11471

The killer is not considered within "the rest". The killer is someone else on the island. Killer x killed Lucifer, my theory still stands!
>> No. 11473 edit
>>11472
GAAAAAAAAAAAAH THAT Blue
only the persons mentioned in this tale are in the island

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>>11473
Good let's play umineko. What is a person? Define it please.
>> No. 11475 edit
>>11474
a human
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>>11475
and what is a human?
>> No. 11477 edit
>>11476
someone that can be physically on the island that have the ability to take a name, only this entity can possibly be in the island
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