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Sacred rituals passed down through time~
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This is why I tripfag.
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And that means. . .

You make the place happier!
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Good morning.
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Well I don't think they were really fighting, but I wouldn't mind seeing them posting with their names.
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Ok, just read all that I missed. And it got fucking weird.
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What's weird for /seacats/ standards , ne?
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Under /seacats/ standard? I don't know. A lot of things doesn't surprise us anymore.
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I was upset you weren't there anon; we need a good level headed mod like you when the darkness comes back~
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I'm sorry, something sudden happened and I couldn't appear in time.
About "fake belphe", well, isn't easy to get who he is from the posts?
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The entire debacle came from Piece acting like a sociopath and someone rightly being angry about it. Rather than continue talking about it we should bury the subject since it's not really that relevant to /seacats/ itself, unless you thrive on drama.
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Damn, so you were busy. There is no fake belphe; that was just Bulleta playing coy. Every belpha post has belonged to me.

Perceptive as always. I'll just drop the entire thing then~
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Good, ne. Nothing good will come of it.

Silly seakits.
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I remember agreeing with his ideas on most points, but I can't remember a lot about the ending so I was planning to re-watch the whole thing once the BDs were out. Which it seems like they are now, so I'll go do that after I finish re-watching FLCL.
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Seakits silly, nya. Season 2 already huh?

Awesome. Focus on everything he says, especially revolving boxes and Momoka~
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Just one point though, I'm also one of those people who thinks all the "symbolism" is mostly people just reading way too hard into a lot of elements that were never there in the first place. It's the same sort of people who think that the Christian imagery in Evangelion held more meaning than simply being there to look cool, or who thought that FLCL was more than just an animated (though brilliantly fun to watch) metaphor for a boy's adolescence.
The symbolism is certainly there, people just like to pretend that it means more than it does.
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That's because people are silly sometimes. I just wanted to hear your own thoughts on it, that's all~
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Sorry, I can't help but worry about it.
Fun thing about anime, you don't need to create a deep plot for it, fans will make it DEEP as long you add some "symbolism" stuff to it.
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So how about that Rose Guns Days, everybody?
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>you fight in it

Awesome. Now I can get that annoying ginger faggot killed~
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You'll have to lose every time. So bad.
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Do you play only him throughout the entire thing? Ugh, I wanted to play that awesome red haired batora dude.
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I don't think Butler shows up in the demo, although I haven't finished it yet.
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I just downloaded that, gonna probably play it later or tomorrow. The entire premise seems pretty neat. Leo just annoys the hell out of me for some reason.
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buler and leo supseiror
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Yup, faux symbolism as it is called.
I hate way more the use of terms like "deep" or "art" to describe anything, since the actual definition of the term is shady as hell and is pretty much meaningless.

This is the kind of peoples that made the "2deep4u" catchphrase turn viral in sarcasm against their own intellectual masturbation and pretty much destroyed any kind of serious discussion about actual meaningful messages of animes or such. Evangelion is the most worn out from this.

But yeah the Judeo-Christians symbols are just there to look cool, it has even been acknowledged by Anno himself for god's sake.
Funny thing is, I think I remember a part in Umineko talking about that ~

On a totally unrelated matter, I'm watching Zetsubou-Sensei, I never laughed so much since I watched Excel Saga I think, ITS GLORIOUS.

Uh ? It's the latest ryukishi creation right ?
Is it any good ?
I should probably read Higanbana first though ~
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Oh, there's a trial version out now? Guess I'll download it and give it a shot, see if Ryukishi's actually managed to improve any this time.
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Demo huh? I would rather wait until it gets released.
Higanbana it's good, but it's heavily based on bullying. Not recomended if you are bored of Ryucakes using bullying/abuse as plot on each story.
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Yeah, it's his latest creation. But it's got nothing to do with When They Cry or Higanbana, aside from a few cameos, so you don't have to read anything else first.
As for the game itself, I like the fighting segments. I'm hoping they get more difficult as it progresses, but as for the story I can't really understand it that well even with a machine translator. There's a lot more gameplay and interactivity though, for example, the fighting sections as well as choosing where to go in the city.
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Ugh. Those were the arts I disliked the most in Umineko.

It's just the japanese version so ? Well I guess I'll wait for a traduction patch to come before trying it out then.
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Actually, hang on a minute.

...People still make VNs at that resolution? This is going to look like a post stamp on my monitor unless I fullscreen it, and if I do that it'll just look stretched.
Come on 07th Expansion, keep up with the times already.
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Arts? The story is about the Youkais on a school, the theme of the novel is bullying. If it doesn't sound appealing then don't pick it.
hi caek
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hi you slat
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Yeah, it's really weird seeing those hi-res sprites being shrunk down to that resolution. Everything aside from the screen size seems pretty innovative, though.
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I meant parts, typo.
Well I've already got it on my hard drive so I'm still gonna try it out one day or another, just not now ~
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That sucks
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Hi moe anon-kun.

hey i just met u and ur crzy
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but hers my denwa so call me mab
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Cake , I never see you on MSN anymore.
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ring ring ring whers chico???

I've gone back to lurking on MSN.
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Is this thing completely unvoiced, too? If I didn't know better I'd say it was being made 5 years ago.
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God this show is so great, why didn't I saw it sooner ?
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um hi this is denwa
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If voices are needed for all the popular VNs, then what's that say about mine?!

On a side note, where'd you get that sprite? Or did you put it together yourself? (The heads are all disconnected from the bodies again)
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Put it together myself, Doc. While I'm not so keen on Ryukishi's writing and all that, I do quite like this guy's character design. Even if the sprites are a bit small.

It's acceptable for English language amateur VNs to not have voices because everyone would just end up disabling them anyway, but for a group like 07th Expansion who have become popular enough to have a number of their works made into TV anime, lacking voices (and more importantly making the resolution 640x480) in 2012 is just a sign of being way behind the times.
I can see one benefit to it already, though. It at least means the voices don't get in the way of the damn nice music.
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I don't really think the voices are a must have for a SN, but thinking back on the "sound patch" I agree it would help to improve the experience. The resolution just sucks.
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What exactly don't you like with Ryu's writing ?
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If I were to list every fault I could think of in everything Ryukishi has ever written, we'd be well into the next thread already.
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The main thing that you dislike about it then, ne.
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Meryl~ So fucking wonderful~
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I want to say "inconsistency," but that's not exactly true. If nothing else it's consistently terrible.
My main problem would be the way he goes about executing his ideas. He comes up with some cool concepts, but every time he somehow manages to pick apart and destroy everything that made that idea good in the first place over its execution.
One huge problem is the way he paces things. It's like proper pacing is a mystery to the man, and he goes on to write 50+ hours of nothing filling it with maybe 10+ hours of scenes that are actually interesting to read. I'd have no problem with this if the boring scenes at least contributed to the plot in some way, but when they're mostly "It's still fucking raining, do you know how long it has been fucking raining, oh man I wish the old man who totally isn't dead would come out of his study already," it gets old fast.
That brings me to another big point, which would be his tendency to repeat things over and over. Yes, yes, I get the hints and you've shoved the foreshadowing down my throat quite enough already, can we get on with the plot now? What, that was it? It's time for the next chapter? Well so much for that, then.
And one thing...... that's not really a....... problem with just Ryukishi's... writing... but the fucking...... ellipses... all over... the damn...... place......... is really...... painful to... read......

I could go on and on, but that's enough wall of text for now. I was about to jump in the shower before typing all this up anyway.
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>"It's still fucking raining, do you know how long it has been fucking raining, oh man I wish the old man who totally isn't dead would come out of his study already,"
Good thing I wasn't drinking coffee, because I would have totally spilled it while reading that.
I guess it's inside of the nature of a story that repeats itself to be, well, a bit repetitive. I won't argue about the pacing in general, but I will say I liked the slice of life scenes in Higurashi. In my opinion they were there to make you forget about the whole mess that is going to happen later.
About the hints: well it becomes a little painful at EP7, but it still wasn't enough for a lot of people, so yeah, maybe he should have just accepted it directly instead of giving more "hints".
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I want to do something but I don't know what to do.

Help me /seacats/!
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Read Fate!
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Ah, I was just about to say the same thing for the repeating.
For the slice of life scenes in Higurashi, I think they were meant to contrast with the brutality of the following events and make us care for the characters. Maybe to draw in some devious fanbase too but I don't want to go that way ~

I take most of Chiru's hints and sayings as a big middle finger towards some incompetent readers. The internet goats in EP8 are a huge exemple.

One thing that I really found painful in Ryu's writing though, is the way some of the scenes are incredibly awkward. For exemple, the EP1 first twilight, when Battler screams at the discovery of the corpses, which totally goes beyond reality with him just describing in the thourough detail the ways their faces have been destroyed, I know it was supposed to be an hint for faking death, but that just broke the tragic feeling, I actually ended up laughing rather than getting emotionally invested.

Still, Ryu's ideas and concepts still amazes me. He really comes up with fascinating concepts.
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Buy Civ5 G&K.

Oh yeah, and double post, totally.
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Very inconvenient time for a power outage that was.
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>Ryougi Shiki figure re-release announced for November
Fuck yes, finally. I've been waiting the better part of 3 years for this. Time to re-watch Kara no Kyoukai.
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Good idea! Touko is the best fictional female ever to be created~
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My advice? Turn on autosaves. I have it set to autosave my game every 2 turns and keep up to 10 autosaves~
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Fortunately autosaves were already on, if not that often.
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Oh, and apparently the "Sacred Path" Pantheon perk doesn't work when you build something in jungle tiles.
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Okay John, I'll ignore your silly complaints about Ryu's writing, but how the hell do you like Leo's character design?

That hair. That gay suit. That grin and that stupid cigarette. He makes me sick just looking at him~
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That's too bad, the desert one works with improved desert tiles, even flood plains~ Of course, culture is much more powerful than faith so I can kinda understand that, culture has lots of multiplier effects while faith has none that I know of~

I once had a capital in the desert near some desert hills and flood plains and an oasis, built Petra in it and took the Desert Path pantheon, some of those tiles had pretty silly yields by the end~
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Petra? I got one of those.
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>>post with Steins Gate patcher link

Thanks, this will keep me occupied for some time, though there's still school days hq to read.
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Petra's great in a desert city, it works best with desert hills, desert resources (like wheat or sheep), and oases~ Plain flatland desert is still kinda meh even with Petra, as I don't think you can farm it unless it happens to be next to a oasis or other body of fresh water (any desert tiles that are next to a river become flood plains which don't work with Petra, so it'd have to be a lake or oasis)~

Anyways, time for a nap~ We should get a Civ5 G&K /seacats/ game going sometime, maybe this weekend~?
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The only part that's bad is the green suit, and only because the color doesn't quite fit him. It's not even bad by itself, it kinda reminds me of Lupin III.
You've just got no sense for style, that's all.
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I agree that it's the worst part. I don't think that color would fit anyone though. His hair annoys me a lot too.

I wouldn't be talking about style if I were you. I saw those pics with your clothing and scabby beard~
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I'll probably lose, but I'll show up anyway.
It wouldn't be so bad without the stripes I think.
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Don't worry John, I think he's swag as fuck.

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>Creepy neet
>knowing anything about fashion

I don't know what's worse; think you know more than me, or thinking you know as much as John~
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I dunno, I think the green jacket fits Lupin a lot better than that silly red jacket he got in the second TV series.

And hey, you got something against Kaiji or The Beatles?
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So it's gonna start again uh ? Congratulations.
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Why would you know anything about fashion, you're naked the majority of the time anyway.
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Hmm. You know what? I revise my opinion and agree with Astaroth; maybe it's the lines that ruin it. That suit does look better than the red one for Lupin. Maybe Leo's hair just is too bright for any bright colors.

Kaiji is swag as hell. Beatles were fairies though.
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Thanks Gendo.

I told you not to ever mention that!
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Also, I have to look good! I spend most of the day looking at myself in the mirror.
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omg but leo's outfit is stylin
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....Can't believe you got the thing in your room. Must be one big mirror~
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So that's how it is ?
I seem to only see grimdark nowadays, I should probably get another pair of glasses and stop meddling in in affair I mistake with my grandpa comments.
I do feel old these times. Well I'll just wash this impurety by going to sleep. Please take care of this thread and the next while I'm away okay ? Enough nonsense has happened recently.
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Nu uh! He's too green looking, like a big asparagus or something!

Don't even worry about it. Luci yelling at Piisu is like a rare unimportant event. Kinda like an eclipse of the sun; fun to watch but ultimately not worth all the fuss it creates.
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Who said it's in my room..~?
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....Touche, you weird little Ruri clone.
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Or George.
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All these random brief outages cannot possibly be good for my PC's lifespan.
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bees in ur modem
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b... but it's so stylin! and its gren with a red shir inside soo much contarst
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Power outage. As in electrical supply to the house and the entire neighborhood.
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bees in ur neighborhood modem
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I just realised I'm pretty damn happy with my life despite all my moping. I dunno. I have everything I want, the future's bright, my family's healthy and so am I.

Geez. Why do I mope so much?
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Nah, you're thinking of phone spiders.
To have people cheer you up anyway?
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midlife crisis
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