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This thread will be for OOC Chatter and Discussion.

Character Sheets:
George (Myn Nthelsyr) http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=215664
Hideiling (Michael Silversteel) http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=217177
Bernkastel ("Bernkastel") http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=285555
Astaroth (Torinn Tormine) http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=217138
Liliane (Sariel) http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=217112
anon-kun (Sureiya) http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=224099

The Books: http://www.mediafire.com/?7g2v42d2xdy7f

>>415
Everything has been put together here and organized for maximum ease of use:

http://www.mediafire.com/?b926x4exnkte8bv

Step 0: Download the above, unrar it.
Step 1: Run the program in the Step 1 folder, this will download the character builder.
Step 2: Run the program in the Step 2 folder, this will update your Cbuilder. Make sure to specify the directory to which you installed the program in Step 1. Be absolutely sure of this, because it may try to install in a different directory (Program Files as opposed to Program Files x86 or vice versa), which will not work.
Step 3: Move the files in the Step 3 folder into the CBuilder directory.
Step 4: Download this: http://www.mediafire.com/?ok9p0qlemjcow07
Step 5: Unrar that into the new "Custom" folder in the Cbuilder directory.
Step 6: Run the "CharacterBuilderLoader.exe" file. It will take some time to load your custom content the first time you load it. The Uncommon to Common part in particular takes a while, but I think it's probably necessary for magic items. You only have to do it once or twice so it's not a big deal, just be patient until it finishes.
Step 7: That should be it. Remember, always open it using the CharacterBuilderLoader.exe and not the default Cbuilder file.
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>>3347
Upon my apotheosis, I'll have a dragon army. Of every dragon everywhere.

Pretty much, anyway.
>> No. 3353 edit
>>3352
Brief but meaningful reign.
>> No. 3354 edit
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>>3353
If by brief you mean a really long time, sure.
>> No. 3355 edit
>>3354
>comparing heroic-tier army to level 30 army

Anyway, the gods will be subjugated under the might of raging primordials, the true creators and rightful rulers of the mortal plane.
>> No. 3356 edit
>>3355
>the Athas setting is ruled over by a dragon
lolno u ded
>> No. 3357 edit
>>3356
Actually gods aren't allowed in Athas because the primordials already crushed the usurpers underfoot (though they fell asleep immediately). On top of that, the Dragon of Tyr is the only dragon in existence. One dragon won't stand a chance, etc.
>> No. 3358 edit
>>3357
Never said I'd actually be -in- Athas.
>> No. 3359 edit
>>3358
Power levels, etc.
>> No. 3360 edit
>>3359
I'm sure there's a dragon dimension out there somewhere anyway. I can call aid from there.
>> No. 3362 edit
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3362
What, you'd kill the innocent primordials in Athas?
>> No. 3363 edit
>>3362
Not unless they start something.
>> No. 3364 edit
>>3363
I don't think going wherever the party wants to immediately (for free) would be ineffective. Also, plenty of powers available to me use minor actions, so Master of Moments is perfectly effective.
>> No. 3365 edit
>>3364
Still weak.
>> No. 3366 edit
>>3365
Time travel (mechanically, extra actions) not weak.
>> No. 3367 edit
>>3366
What would you need a standard action, move action, and three minor actions for?
>> No. 3368 edit
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>>3367
Things like this.

Also,
>Standard + Move + Minor + Minor
or
>Standard + Move + Move
>> No. 3369 edit
>>3368
Considering all the accuracy penalties we can accrue, I wonder if enemies will even be able to hit us by mid-paragon.
>> No. 3370 edit
>>3369
That's a poor excuse. Attack penalty (untyped) and surgeless healing every encounter. The power is amazing and you know it.
>> No. 3371 edit
>>3370
For bloodied allies. It'll be obsoleted eventually.
>> No. 3372 edit
>>3371
I don't foresee this power becoming obsolete ever. Also, name one combat encounter that we completed without any bloodying.
>> No. 3373 edit
>>3372
The goblin ambush? That one went pretty badly for them.

The surgeless healing doesn't scale. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't persist outside combat.
>> No. 3374 edit
>>3373
Did that happen? Well, every encounter beyond that had some bloodying, I think.

Generally, utility powers don't need to scale because we don't ever need to replace them; we just gain more powerful utility powers as we level up. On top of that, it scales with equipment (Healer's Brooch, Weapon of Healing, etc).
>> No. 3376 edit
>>3220
Prestidigitation time?
>> No. 3382 edit
Is it possible to examine the invisible person's footprints? Wearing shoes of some sort, or barefoot and identifiable?
>> No. 3383 edit
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>>3382
You're not even sure which ones belong to the extra person. They do not seem to be distinguishable from the rest.
>> No. 3388 edit
Alright, this is not the first time we have to explain everything, but could someone else explain the information? RP-wise Sureiya its kinda nervous right now with all the orcs around.
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>>3388
You don't HAVE to explain "everything." The goblin is asking specifically about the deserted orc camp you found.
>> No. 3391 edit
Don't mention Thelkra etc.
>> No. 3395 edit
That wolf looks like a bear etc.
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>>3395
Unfortunate effect of cropping for the token
>> No. 3405 edit
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3405
Can we get a knowledge and insight check on Obould?
>> No. 3406 edit
Dunno, ask bern for an insight check.
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>>3405
Related knowledge could be gleaned from Streetwise or History. As for Insight, go ahead.
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I would post my rolls, but they suck.
Bernkastel save us etc.
>> No. 3411 edit
Oh good, it's not the same Oubold.
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Looks like they already errata'd the themes.
>> No. 3415 edit
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3415
They don't seem to have balanced they a lot.
Some details with the animal guy, an specification to the guardian, an upgrade to the wizard?
>> No. 3416 edit
>>3415
They changed a lot of bonuses to power bonuses, made sure animal companions got scaling defenses, and... I guess made the guardian more appealing to paladins?
>> No. 3419 edit
Sureiya is ready to go, it's all up to you guys.
>> No. 3420 edit
Torinn's ready.
>> No. 3426 edit
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Clearly the cause of the disturbance was the dwarves' steampunk dragon tank going out of control.
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>>3426
It dispenses poison, too?
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For the record, the CharOp's "From the Lab" series is showing rather promising results for Essentials classes performing adequately in appropriately-leveled encounters, despite all the bitching about how they are "underpowered" or whatever.

http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/27955697/Lab_Results:_The_From_the_Lab_Notebook

Of particular note should be that the level 30 party with the Sacrifice Cavalier as their defender did beat the level 33 Dragon of Tyr in 5~6 rounds, without being in too much danger.
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>>3432
Awesome!
>> No. 3434 edit
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>>3433
The party that beat the dragon of Tyr was using Essentials-only material, too. Probably could have done better if they were using more sources.
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>>3434
I guess that it proves they do fine at higher levels, but do they do any low-level testing?

I don't doubt that they'd do pretty well there, but I'd like some reassurance nonetheless.
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>>3435
I think the doubts were that Essentials classes fall behind at the higher levels, not the lower levels. All classes have fewer resources at lower levels. There was a mid-paragon test, but no heroic that I saw.
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>>3436
True. And the argument that they get their dailies later is pretty much moot when some of them don't get daily powers in the first place.
>> No. 3442 edit
Thelkra's corpse is being blamed for the assassination attempt. We should look while we're still here so we can investigate the crime scene ne.
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New thread!
>>3443
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